I find it very irritating that some doctors, even spine specialist, will look at MRI's and/or CT Scans and say there is nothing here that would cause your pains - all the while that you have degenerative disc disease along with 3 bulging discs.
There are many people walking around with bulging discs while having no pains whatsoever - then one person could have a bulging disc and be curled up in fetal position crying from the pains. Pain is pain, no matter how you look at it. We are all different and pain affects all differently.
Primary Care Physicians should order an x-ray to see if anything shows up - then an MRI and/or CT Scan should be requested. Being referred to either an Orthopedic Spine Specialist and/or Neurosurgeon Spine Specialist would be the next step as they are the best at reading the results. Once they review those they can direct you in the right direction of treatment plans - those may include pain management (PHYSIATRIST pain management is the best), physical therapy, chiropractic care, etc., This is the normal regimen that should be taken once a PCP has ordered an x-ray and not seeing what maybe causing the pains or seeing something that could be causing the pains.
However, in your instance, having an extra disc (L6) is fairly common - we have seen quite a few people posting that they recently found out they have an extra disc. And those that have posted often have the L6 disc as the main source of pain.
I am sorry that your doctor took such a long time to get you into the right path for treatments and am sorry that you did lose quite a lot. It's unfortunate you had to endure this and sad that these types of programs (internet, support groups, etc) were not around when you we were younger.
I am glad that you have found the right treatments that are working for you.
We do let a lot of people know that if a particular physician is not listening then it's time to move on and find a new one - and keep moving on til you do find the one that will.
Please let us know how you are doing - take care - Joy~~View Thread
Yes, massage treatments are good as well as physical therapy, chiropractic care, aquatic therapy, etc. However before someones with back/neck problems goes to one they should be examined by a professional physician as in an orthopedic spine specialist, neurosurgeon spine specialist or physiatrist pain management physician. Once this is done then a proper course of treatment can be assessed and if therapy is one treatment the proper prescription can be written.
One should not seek out any type of therapy on their own as the therapy treatments could, and has, made problems worse.
I, for one, cannot have any type of massage treatments (very tender to touch) and I cannot have any type of stretch techniques as I have a plate, screws and cage in place of my L5 discs.
And a rule of thumb - what works for one may not work for another - this is why we are all different.View Thread
I have not had this - though I have a plate in my back and have to be very careful what type of physical therapy I do - and most physical therapy's have not worked for me over the last 4 years (been to 6 different ones)
But it's always good to hear of something out there that does help - take care - keep us updated - Joy~~View Thread
you have to look at the entire picture - your pelvis is attached to the lower vertebrae and if that becomes tilted to either side it will affect the spine and cause problems -
it's funny i just ran across your posting as I took my mom to the pm doc today (took her to mine - she's had bad, bad pains for over 20 years)
the pm doc looked at her MRI and when he came in and examined her he was telling her that her pelvic is turned and causing a lot of pains - but she also has a lot of bad back problems (she used to pick cotton when she was little - depression era in the south) so that took a tole on her back - plus her side of the family has bad back problems -
so yes this will affect it -
one thing that the pm doc recommends for my mom is to see their chiropractor -
BUT - you need to be examined by and orthopedic spine specialist and/or neurosurgeon spine specialist to review the MRI/CT Scans - then they can direct you in the right course of treatments -
take care and let us know how u are doing - Joy~~View Thread
I am so sorry that you are having such problems - suicide is not the answer -
you may want to discuss with your primary care physician and let him/her know how you are feeling - I know people sometimes do not want to see a psychiatrist but they can help with depression and also sometimes the meds can help with back pains -
You didn't say how long ago your surgery was and what type -
you may also want to see an orthopedic spine specialist or a neurosurgeon spine specialist - have new MRI/CT Scans done - they can get you in the right direction for pain management -
One place I have found that has done wonders for me (failed back surgery syndrome - had fusion L5-S1 2 1/2 years ago ) but a pain management that has the word in it of: PHYSIATRIST - they dig deeper into pain management than any other place I've ever been to -
PLEASE PLEASE DO THIS - and let us know how you are doing - we all know what it's like to live day-2-day with chronic back pains -
yes water therapy is great - i do this each year when we open our pool - so it is wonderful - i don't have noodles but i straddle a float raft like a horse and just float around in the pool.
i also walk around in the shallow end very carefully and slowly moving against the flow of the water to help strengthen the legs and lower back - though i do have to be careful. when i swim i can only move my arms and tread the water - i cannot move my legs as this causes so much pain
I had Anterior Lumbar Fusion L5-S1 2 years ago and have worse pains now (not to mention that I have 3 new bulging discs - surgeon even said no to surgery) -