I'm not a neurologist, but it's my understanding that the nerves passing thru L3/L4 may indeed cause leg and butt pain, but your bladder would be fed from nerves emanating from the thoracic area.
That being said, I have always stated that everything in the body is connected and nothing works in a vacuum. I remember having knee surgery and the first time I tried to pee I hurt everywhere!
I know my left knee is not connected to my penis and bladder!
How are you taking pain pills if you haven't been to a doctor? That's a red flag and self medication is a violation of many medical forums...the moderators will get right on that
Your body will tell you if you don't need a doctor, but taking pain meds without a doctor may give you a false sense of comfort. Be careful.
That being said, at your age ( Us old guys don't play basketball) it's likely a soft tissue injury. Ice alternating with heat and rest along with some NSAIDS should find you back slam dunking your way through your days soon.
Warning, if you don't feel better in a reasonable time and you think you may have a nerve/spine issue, you should see an MD before trying any alternative treatment. It is dangerous to your health to leave a back injury improperly cured. It can lay in wait and years later as you reach for a coffee cup on the top shelf you scream out in pain. Many people equate such triggering events as the cause of their injury, but it was the twist or turn years prior that never got put back in alignment correctly.
I think (as in my opinion is) if you do need to see a doctor I would look for a physiatrist as he has a deep understanding of your soft tissue and your vertebrae to find the right rehab.
Again only my opinion, if you really felt pretty good, but still had a nagging knot in your muscle perhaps a massage therapist (a good one) could help pin point it for you?
I broke eight ribs and collapsed my lung. They harvested bone from my hip which hurt for years. It was a nuisance pain and nothing like spine pain.
I'm familiar with the protocol, our own bones are used as a base material to maximize our body accepting it so it can grow and fuse to existing bone. The screws and rods are like a cabinet makers clamps, once everything is set up the clamps can be removed. This is true of most of our back hardware. I had the hardware removed that once held nine vertebrae together. Screws and Harrington rods that once held me together eventually caused there own pain. The surgery getting them removed was almost as bad as getting them in, sans the brain, rib cage and lung injury. Once healed it was worth it though. The screws from the upper attachment points were poking into muscle and causing horrific pain issues.
Our bodies don't happen to come with spare bones though. This leads to the argument for stem cell research. Theoretically they would be able to grow bone that was a perfect DNA match to your body.
I'm all for such research as long as they don't kill human life to create it. For over a decade and a half I've read of the new quantum advances in pain medicine and DNA level medicines that could enter your body and turn selective pain gates off!
For almost 15 years I've read and been told that, "in 2-5 years there will be a whole new way of treating pain." One article in the medical equivalent to Scientific American listed all the pharmaceutical analgesics and how now matter what we label them they are all still based on thousand year old medicine born of opium and white willow bark. The biggest advancement has been to synthesize narcotics...kind of like making a fiberglass car instead of sheet metal one. In the end it's still just a car fraught with all the same problems as other cars and some new ones specific to fiberglass.
Germany allows ketamine induced comas that are said to reboot the brain often with the once locked on pain centers reset to a normal state. I'm not sure of its success rate, but there have been times I would have gladly tried it. In one of the episodes of House he actually has this procedure performed on him. I found it interesting that their storyline actually based itself in some real contemporary medicine...of course the names have been changed to protect the innocent
I do wish we had private messaging. I'm sure they turned off the feature to prevent any such malicious activity, but sometimes you'd like to say something to one person only.
There's a benefit to every word being out there for everyone to read though...in hindsight, I'm not sure if it's a good idea or not?
As somebody mentioned, most message boards have private messaging along with full time moderators covering different time zones.
Ironic we call this the Information Age where words are passed at lightening speed, but are we getting any smarter? Sometimes it seems the internet is going the way of TV 80% BS and commercials View Thread
In the end we all meet our maker alone. So what's important is that when that time comes we can look up and say, "I tried to make your world a better place"
I got a glimpse early and when I came back it had pretty much gone ugly. I too reported the comments as personal attacks. I also agree with Dave and stated that moderators are needed.
The irony is what I tried to sum up in my one and only post in that thread and also in (a more reflective nicer way) here.
Really, the request for any one to share his health experience in a comparative manner is by definition a diagnosis. If you say "I had something like that..." You're assuming you know what "that" is.
Also like Dave, I've been in here less so I didn't see the ANONYMOUS posts until it was all over. I read the first post and Joy's reply. I agreed with what Joy said so I didn't comment.
I don't think anonymity other than the use of an alias should be allowed. One user, one account. Moderators can lock out IP addresses or usernames. It can become a game of cat and mouse, but that's better than the fox in the hen house.