I am with Dyanne good post. other then what Dyanne said If your daughter comes to a point were she is medicated and things are going well you may want to sit down with her and discus what actions she wants you to take during major depressive and major manic episodes and draw up a plan of action. My wife and i did research/ trial and error to find her the right combination of doctors and emergency help options to fit her specific needs. we have drawn up a plan on what to do during different phases of her bipolar that include what hospitals/ emergency room to take her to if she gets in real trouble. She may be resistant to help but when I can get her to come around we have made a plan action that goes like this. For minor episodes we make the next available appointment with her Psychiatrist. For more serious episodes we call the Psychiatrist and ask for a emergency appointment her doc is good 9 times out of 10 he will give her the last appointment of the day and stay over to see her if necessary. If he can not see her same day we did research and found a mental hospital close to us that will do walk in evaluations and out patient treatment with the on duty Doc during business hours as our back up. for really bad episodes when she is dangerous to her self or others we take her directly to the mental hospital during business hours to save ER expense or after hours we take her the ER next to the mental hospital to save on ambulance transfer fees from one hospital to another. As a last resort I call 911. Since my wife and i talked this out together she is usually ok afterwards with what ever happens. This is our plan any thing you guys work out will have to be specific to her. If you should need extra help there is a group called Nami that may be able to help you as well read the top entry. he explains them pretty good. I hope things get better for you soon.
Carohope: let me start by welcoming you to the board. My wife and most of m family have Bipolar disorder I do not. If you do not mind me asking how bad is it? There is lots of advice I could give you but you have chosen a pretty big topic. A little more back ground would really help. With out knowing any more than i do i would say try finding the book The Bipolar Disorder Survival Guide by DR David J. Miklowitz to start. your local public library may have it or be able to get it. Coping with bipolar disorder can be really hard. I hope things get better for you soon. I look forward to your response.
laura please do not take offense at my last post it was directed more at Puredian than you but I was just trying to add a new perspective for both of you to think about. By the way I have a lot of respect for you and i am sure you work your way through your depression. I had not planned to respond to this post again until I saw Puredian's post then i felt i had to respond. Again sorry if i am being a little pushy.
Puredian and even laura nothing in this world ever happens with out determination and sacrifice if you constantly come up with excuses or reasons not to get help you will never get help it seems both of you are stuck in a loop were you both feel like giving up and can not find the determination to beat the depression that is slowly killing you. Now i have a question for both of you are ether of you at the point were if you seriously injured you self's you would not call 911. If either of you cut your self and it got infected and slowly started infecting an entire leg would you cover the leg up until you are so sick that even if you survived you would loose a leg or would you get what ever help is necessary. If you started to grab you chest and could not breath would you give in or would you get help. It is obvious that one or both of you are in serious pain and have an illness that could be deadly if left untreated or correctly treated. Puredian maybe i am naive but i can not think of a situation where the authorities would allow there personal feeling to keep them from doing there job which is make sure people who are hurt or injured in any way even mentally ill get he mental help they need. I find it really hard to believe that you can not pick up a phone, call 911 and the local authorities will not come and take you to the hospital. I do beleive they might play rock paper scissors to see just who gets the honor of dealing with you if you have history with them. But i am pretty sure if you tell the 911 operator that you are suicidal some one will come and get you even if they are not happy about it. Laura please hang in there until you can see your doc but I do beleive that you are gambling with your children futures every day you wake up feeling suicidal and do not get the help you truly need to get and i do believe if you found a lump some where on your body you would do what ever is necessary even being hospitalized to make sure it is not cancer and if it is beat it. But let me say this when there is children involved there is no excuse for letting an illness slowly kill you especially when there is treatment to be had. Especially if you make away to get help you could live along and memorable life. Both of you be safe and remember when it seems like you have no friends or people that care there are always people on this community that do. That includes me.
Laura i think I over reacted a little bit but this is a sensitive subject for me and I was really starting to worry because i was just starting to get used to your comments on the family support page. What ever is going on stay safe. I look forward to talking to you again.
Laura I just read you post to Pixie5 be strong hold in there until you can get to the doc. By the way the mental hospital is not as bad as it seems my wife is the ultimate control freak but she learned to cope she made it work because she wanted to live if you voluntarily go into get help you may only have to be in one day or two and if you find the right place you get to keep may freedoms such as phone use. but either way be safe. I look forward to talking to you again
Laura there are plenty of way to get help. find the strength you need to make it through this you will be soarly missed on this board as well as the supporter board. My mothers death devastated our family I even lost an uncle to drinking a few years ago after twenty years of not being able to cope with the fact that he could not protect her he had always looked out for her up to that point and her death destroyed him sent him spiraling in to one self destructive behavior after another he was headed twoard a career as a author before she died a book deal was in the works with options for three more if that one worked out he never signed the deal. He tried to come around for my sake for a while but in the end his guilt got the best of him. suicide can devastate please get help. I miss my mother every day do what is wright stay alive.
Anon you could always uncovince your self or find some one will help you see the truth which is no matter how bad it seems your kids need you to stay alive. My mom left me early (Died) when i was five years old. She was very violent at times but i tell you no matter what problems she would have had i would give any thing to have had her live even if that meant she was extremely flawed for the rest of her life. That i could learn to live with. No mother at all I will never be cool with that. There are a ton of options to get help including a suicide hot-line list on the side of this page listed under resources. please let some one convince you that you are needed. Do not let even one more child suffer from not having a mother to love them. GET HELP PLEASE I AM BEGGING YOU.
kirkhy I am with every one else you are blaming the wrong people. Most people with BP are lucid enough that even when they are manic or depressive in there moods they can still be reasoned with. If you do not like what is going on with your daughter then you should wait for a time when she is just calm enough that you can reason with her and talk to her as an adult not a child and you will find that you may make some progress. I do not have Bi polar disorder but my wife does. Both of our families thought we were doing the wrong thing getting married but we did it any way and it worked out fine. My wife's family is just now learning that if they do not deal with her as an adult they get no where with her but if they reason with her she listens to them. By the way no one is perfect there are plenty of people out there making the same or worse mistakes as you claim your daughter does that have no mental illness at all. You may want to check in to getting a therapist your self I have known a few in my time that will help family members cope and stay grounded. You may also want to check into a group called Nami ( www.nami.org) they have support groups for family at some of there chapters and have chapters in most major metropolitan areas. I hope things get better for you soon I know how hopeless things can seem when a family member is going through the worst of it.