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Reply: Religious Delusions

Hi, sonic77. I have experienced illusions and delusions that had to do with religion. I...

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Reply: bipolar and lieing/bipolar and sex

**** TRIGGER POST ***** Hi, Anon. Hmmm. Lying is a problem most of us have to deal with,...

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Hi, Anon.

Hmmm. Lying is a problem most of us have to deal with, whether it is our own or someone else's. Have you tried to catch yourself before you tell a lie? Maybe if you resolve to stop lying and tell yourself, "Before I say anything, I will ask myself, 'Is this the truth as far as it is necessary to tell it?'" You don't of course have to tell the truth all the time. If one of your friends asks you what you think of her poetry, and it is terrible, you of course aren't required to tell her how bad you think it is. You don't have to lie and praise it to the skies either. (Immanuel Kant, on the other hand, argued that we are obligated to tell the truth all the time no matter what might happen. I subscribe to a more commonsensical approach.)

I have not had much of a problem with my telling lies, by which I mean I have not found myself telling many lies. I lied to a classmate in the last year about why I was late getting somewhere to meet him, but I eventually apologized. Maybe it was only because I thought he knew the truth, but I still apologized. I wonder if I did the right thing.

Are you really telling lies as often as you say you are? Are you being overly critical of yourself? Nobody likes being lied to -- the late philosopher F. W. Nietzsche said that our love of truth comes from fear of harm, and lies do do harm -- and it is usually wrong, most people would say, to tell lies very often. Try to lie as little as you can. Try to stop lying altogether. If you have secrets you don't want to have to tell people about, and these are not things that are currently hurting yourself or others, such as alcohol or drug abuse, domestic violence, self-harming, then don't tell about the secret things. If someone asks you about a secret that isn't hurting anybody (including yourself) and you don't want to tell them, don't tell them or deny it. "Do you pick your nose and eat your boogers?" someone might ask you. If you do, and you don't want to tell them, don't. There is a limit to what people are entitled to know about you. But you probably know this stuff already.

About sex. I don't have any surefire advice for you. But I'll say some things anyway. If you are a heterosexual woman, then I don't understand your question about sex. If you are in a closed relationship and feel it would be cheating to attract the romantic attentions of another woman, then don't do it. At least don't let things get far beyond things like eyelash batting. There is probably a slippery slope that goes from a wink to a roll in the hay.

Most people, male and female, can't stand having a partner "cheat" on them. Can't stand it. Some people die over such things. Think about how it would make your partner feel if you did deliberately attract the attentions of other women while in the relationship.

I am newly married and so will have to deal with temptations myself, I am sure. But I am sure I already have the only woman I want. Ask yourself how you would like your partner to act. Philosopher Immanuel Kant came up with a famous "categorical imperative, "Act only according to that maxim whereby you can, at the same time, will that it should become a universal law." Schoolteachers used to ask things like, "What if everybody acted that way?" when a student did something against the rules. Kant is saying we should act so that it would be OK if everybody acted the way we do. I suppose you could narrow this down to two people, so you'd say, "Act as you would like the other person to act." This sums up nicely both the Golden and Silver rules (attributed to Jesus and Buddha I think), "Do unto others what you would have them do unto you," and "Do not do to others what you would not like them to do to you."

I invite you to join the forums!

BertieView Thread

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Reply: Zeal to life

I lost my passion and zeal for life before I was diagnosed and put on meds. After a while,...

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Reply: Religious Trigger - I've noticed a lot of God talk...

How old are you, EternalDeath? Religiosity, according to one graph I've seen, peaks first...

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How old are you, EternalDeath? Religiosity, according to one graph I've seen, peaks first around the age of 20 and then falls back to a low level. Then, when people reach about 60, it spikes again. Maybe this is what's happening to you.

As to why it's happening, the reason (besides "that's what happens"), someone who knew you well might be able to guess, but that's about as close as you're likely to come to an answer from a non-expert. As for the experts, take your pick. They're probably all over the place -- except for the widely used "death is knocking on your door and you feel you want your life to have meant something and not to end" argument (for why religiosity peaks a second time around 60). It's such a boring argument that I don't pay any attention to it and look for other, more interesting explanations.

I know this is "necroposting," replying to a post that is so old (and I haven't read the whole thread so I may be missing some things you've already said) but I saw your post and recognized someone struggling with religious belief. I have none, and the closest I ever got was during psychotic periods of depression or mania.

During depression it was awful. I was an unworthy sinner who was going to a place of torment and was going to be dragged there, powerless to resist, by every person I'd ever been disliked at all by. I actually believed I was being cast out of society forever and that I was about to be dragged out of my apartment in the middle of the night wrapped in a bedsheet and ridiculed in the street below before being thrown away.

During mania, it was amazing. With no religious system to view my spiritual experience through I think I got a pretty pure glimpse of what spiritual experience is. I believe it is all brain chemistry, but that doesn't take away from the raw transcendent feeling I got and the hallucinations I had. It was the most important thing in my life up until that time. (Now I'm married and the most important thing in my life is, or probably should be, my new wife.) For years I chased that experience, and I had a couple more similar ones. These times are what it is like to be really high on life. Religious people will probably insist that they were not real spiritual experiences or that they were in fact God touching me. Balderdash! to all that.

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She has created a user! fishykim. I don't think she has posted yet.

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Reply: New

Welcome, Meganjoelle. I am new to the bipolar boards but not to bipolar. The boards...

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Davewavey, I'm sorry to hear of your serious difficulties. I am bipolar and I hope my...

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Video by a bipolar man

These are two short videos. They are just text and music, but he tells an interesting...

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I have lost friends or shattered important relationships in large part because of things I did while symptomatic.

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Reply: In Crisis on the Weekend?

kthx. That's a good idea!

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Reply: Subjective symptom interpretations while ill

I am curious about this ability you say you have, and I want to take advantage of this...

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