So let me make sure I understand, when you reply to most of my posts to make claims of sales impropriates, data "white wash" as you put it, marketing that affects our doctor's opinion and so on, that's OK. When I respond to your posts it's harassment? Did you not say that you were going to "knock me off my horse" and tell me "you'll regret you ever messed with me" on other posts? Where am I out of line?
Again, an open forum. Go back and look at the first few weeks you were here and see if you really want to claim harassment.View Thread
I will always call out misleading posts intended to confuse the issue. Your post is all vague numbers that don't really add anything to the discussion and not even related to statins. You like to post summaries without fact, that can be misleading
Also, did you not once warn me that no one had the right to tell another when or where to post, which was followed by a threat? If you don't want a response, perhaps you should reconsider posting as this is an open forum.View Thread
Bill is correct, the LDL goal for individuals with diabetes is less than 70 which really makes the ratio moot, I'm sure that's why he's prescribing the statins. He is also correct that you may tolerate another statin better, they are not all alike. I'm guessing even a small adjustment in your dosage will probably get the desired results with very few side effects. There are new drugs on the way that are designed for individuals that can not tolerate a statin. These are very affective and are just coming out of the trial stage now but it will most likely be another year or two before they are readily available.
I would ask to try another statin, I know of many people that tried more than one before they found one they tolerated well. I hope this works out for you!View Thread
I see no mention of statins in that response, how much of that was statin related and how did it affect the OP's doctor's decision? Again, you're more interested in headlines and conspiracies than you are in fact. In How can you even qualify you response, is it an appropriate amount? Should doctors go unpaid for these activities or is it just easier to look at the whole and say it must be inappropriate because that would take less work than trying to really understand the numbers. More total smoke and mirrors in the absence of fact. You do love conspiracies.View Thread
They are not drug pushers, if you don't want to take their advice, don't take statins. It's really up to you.
Why are they insisting? I would assume they have a reason. it seems that restarting a different statin is very successful. This may help;
"At least one-half of patients referred to the lipid clinic at my institution for statin intolerance have symptoms that are clearly unrelated to the drug," writes Grundy. "Even so, many patients cannot be convinced that statins are not the problem."
Dr Scott Grundy (University of Texas Southwestern, Dallas), who wrote an editorial to accompany the study[2> , said that the current clinical guidelines "virtually mandate" lifetime use of statins once they are started, although this can be a challenge for many patients. These new data do confirm that discontinuation rates are relatively high but are reassuring in that most patients can tolerate the drugs in the long term if they are rechallenged. He notes that many patients blame the medications for various side effects, a natural tendency.
You most certainly did and reports were made to the proper authorities to put them on notice along with copies of your post.
A pharma sales manager was injured by a statin
See that was not the original story, at first he was a hard working sales manager that sold statins by day and warned the public by night. There was never any mention about being injured himself until later, it morphed. But for the sake of argument, let's say he's real. Why would anyone take what he says seriously? This is someone that had no problems cashing the check but suddenly gets a conscience after hours? The cause is not important enough when he's hustling that sale. This person has no backbone, no morals and no credibility.View Thread
I wanted to offer some insight as to what goes on backstage. Things the consumer doesn't see.
I guess my problem is I don't think you really know what goes on, let me explain why.
I know a lot of pharmaceutical sales folks, I mean a lot. These people all have Masters degrees and more like myself. They would never get so many of the processes wrong as I have noticed in your posts. You couldn't even tell me what certification requirements you must meet to sell pharmaceuticals. I let them read the sales manager story and none could do it with a straight face. In fact they all tell me it's similar to an old wives' story that's been going around the industry for years. The "Valiant Sales Manager".
But most importantly, these people are professionals and would never go on the Internet and act as you have with grade school name calling and making threats of physical violence as you have here with me. You don't fit the profile.