Thanks for the link to the law firm. I had my flu shot in October of 2011. Tried EVERYTHING to relieve pain & immobility (Nsaids, prednisone, Cortisone shots, Physical Therapy, massage, etc.) bottom line: it has been well over a year and I am still in pain. MRI showed Bursitis, Biceps Tendonitis, small tear of the supraspinatus. I am (well USED to be) a swimmer. I cannot swim anymore. The pain is not so bad I need surgery, but I have been told eventually I will need surgery. I DID file a VAERS report and understand I only have 2 years to file a claim. I do plan on doing that. I think that I will contact this law firm--like you said, what do I have to lose? The fact that I am still in pain and it effects my life to the point I cannot exercise/swim like I used to enjoy--I am still angry and feel I should be compensated somehow. I'm a nurse and my job required the flu shot--I did not want it. I believe that not only did my nursing supervisor give the shot too high in my deltoid, she used a 1 1/2 in needle (too long for my thin build). The person giving the shot should ALWAYS be sitting down next to you. I left that job a month ago and trust me I would have no problem suing them as well. There was a study done a couple years back when all these cases of shoulder problems were happening after flu vaccines. Here is the link to that research paper. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X10014659 It cost $31.50 to order the article, but its worth it. It basically supports the theory that, "the proposed mechanism of injury is the unintentional injection of antigenic material into synovial tissues resulting in an immune-mediated inflammatory reaction".View Thread
Dear kaiser1995, I got the flu shot Oct. 6th (2 months ago) and couldn't do all those things you mentioned plus I couldn't work (was on disability). But just to let you know, you WILL get better, the only question is when. I just returned back to work 2 days ago and my shoulder is much better now. Its not 100% (not full range of motion yet) but I am stronger (can carry grocery bags, pull my car door shut, etc) so it took about 2 months for me. I still cannot sleep on that side, but the pain is almost all gone. For the last couple of weeks I had bad spasms in my biceps, triceps and forearm--also up into my neck. But I got a couple of massages, a few visits to physical therapy and also take an anti-inflammatory every day (15mg meloxicam). I was diagnosed with "Impingement syndrome" MRI also showed fluid in the bursa (bursitis), tendonitis AND a partial rotator cuff tear--YES all from the flu shot. Everybody is different, but I just wanted to share my experience so that you know theres hope! Definitely go see an orthopedic doctor. You don't want to end up with a frozen shoulder. My doctor said if I'm still bad in a few weeks I could get a cortisone shot. But I know I won't need it. Good luck to you!View Thread
Dear CRNALG, Sounds like you are very athletic since you lift weights. Therefore, I'm sure this truly impacts your life. I also consider myself athletic since I swim and cycle alot. Of course I am unable to do any of that. Its bad enough that I cannot work but at least I am going to be getting disability. I too, never got the flu shot before they made it mandatory for my job. Its just so friggin aggravating/frustrating that this amount of pain could be from a simple shot. To add insult to injury, nobody believes us when we tell them it IS from this vaccination/injection. I wish I was a lawyer instead of a nurse--then I would gather all these people and file a class action suit and take on the CDC and FDA!! Even though I believe it doesn't make any difference, please file a VAERS report!! It is very simple to do online. What is even more appalling is that the CDC & FDA are not doing anything about this. These adverse side effects have been happening since 2007. The crazy thing is that if you research and look at the studies, the flu shot is a "long shot" that it will even protect you. The pharmaceutical companies skew their studies so that they can make us believe we MUST be vaccinated... they continue to make billions of dollars while they ignore the truth. People don't die from the flu, they usually die from pneumonia. Why don't they list arm disability & severe pain that lasts for months as a side effect? The truth is the general/healthy population does not need a flu vaccination--but all of a sudden they have made us believe EVERYBODY must have it--pure propaganda! Just a couple years ago, it was only recommended for elderly (65 ) & children but they realized how much more money they could make if everybody got it. This is only my opinion, but I will never ever allow anyone to inject dangerous toxins/crap into my body again. Best prevention is to live a healthy life--eat right, exercise and if you really want to avoid the flu--get plenty of sunshine (Vitamin D)!View Thread
Almost forgot to add this: I found out the nurse gave me the shot with a 1 1/2 inch length needle. The CDC guidelines recommend a 5/8 or 1 inch long needle for people 150 lbs or less (I would fall in that category).View Thread
Just thought I'd give an update--Its been 4 weeks since my flu shot and although my range of motion is a little better, the pain is not. I got the results of my MRI today. Its definitely an impingement with lots of fluid in there (bursitis), Tendonitis of the long head of the biceps, subscapularis and supraspinatus tendons (part of the rotator cuff) Also partial tear in the supraspinatus rotator cuff tendon. My doc says he does not believe at all that this could be from a flu shot. He said my shoulder has too many things going on in there! Ha, I NEVER had any problems whatsoever in that shoulder before that shot. I really appreciate this forum--it tells me that my doctor is wrong when he tells me it is only "coincidence". So anyhow the plan is to continue on the Mobic (anti-inflammatory), wait 3 weeks and if I'm still bad we'll talk about a cortisone shot (I don't really want another shot in that shoulder!!)View Thread
Dear mwbryant 1977, Cold compresses, like Dr. Moser suggested is probably the best for you right now. Its good you are already on an anti-inflammatory (celebrex). But you definitely need to see someone and get a proper diagnosis. If it is adhesive capsulitis "frozen shoulder" you want to move the joint as much as possible (& get physical therapy) or you may end up having to get it manipulated under anesthesia (like many here have posted). I still cannot believe this happened to me after a flu shot! It has been almost 4 weeks for me now and the pain is just as bad as it was that first week (sorry thats not very good news). Although "myarmhurtstoo" posted a few days ago that her shoulder seemed better after about 4 months, which to me is pretty encouraging since alot of people have had problems for alot longer than that. I am a nurse and my job is very physical, but there is no way I can work right now. I just used up my sick time and just applied for state disability. My ortho doctor authorized 6 weeks off for now. You may need to do the same. Please check out the website I posted above--and file a "VAERS" report!! The CDC needs to know this is happening to alot of people and it is NOT a coincidence! It is very easy to file this report online. Hopefully they will eventually inform the public and also change their guidelines. Good luck and keep us posted!View Thread
What research did you find that associates adhesive capsulitis to the flu shot? If you find it, post a link so I can read it.
Dear Dr. Moser (and "Pain1217")... I have also found research that associates adhesive capsulitis (frozen shoulder) to the flu shot--actually in this forum! I have come across many other medical forums as well that have similar postings of people who have had no prior shoulder problems and immediately after getting a vaccination in the arm have pain that lasts a significant amount of time (months & even years). THAT to me is an association and I hope that all of these individuals are filing a VAERS report (Vaccine Adverse Events Report System)!! ANY kind of "adverse" reaction should be reported. That is the only way the CDC and FDA will make the needed changes in their guidelines. They need to list this in their "possible side effects" and inform the public of all risks. They also need to change the guidelines for healthcare professionals administering the injection. I am an RN myself and will never get this flu shot again. That is my choice, however you can request that they give it in your gluteal muscle (butt) or as Dr. Moser commented; get the FluMist if you are eligible. My opinion is that it has more to do with the injection itself--and not the vaccine. There is a theory that the vaccine is being injected into the joint capsule or bursa and causing an overactive immune-mediated inflammatory response. Especially if you have had the vaccine before. If you go back a few pages on this thread, "myarmhurtstoo" has posted many wonderful links to learn more about this strange reaction many people are experiencing. The most interesting one is a transcript of a meeting held in Sept. 2010 with the (ACCV) Advisory Commission on Childhood Vaccines (part of the Dept. of Health and Human Services). They are well aware of all the shoulder injuries happening as a result of the flu shot (and other vaccinations given in the arm) and they even have an acronym for it: SIRVA (Shoulder Injury Related to Vaccine Administration) Anyhow within this meeting they discuss their findings and discuss possible solutions for prevention. Of course nothing has happened yet! Heres the link: www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/accvtranscript9310.pdf If you go to this link, it starts at about page 15 to page 25. Dr. S. Atanosoff and assoc. did a study and a medical journal published it about this same time. I have tried to find it online, but ended up having to purchase it through PubMed. This article is only 4 pages but tell the WHOLE STORY. If you are interested in this study try this link: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20955829. I only hope people will continue to spread the word about this possible side effect and report their own experience to the CDC--here is the website to do that (VAERS) http://vaers.hhs.gov/esub/index. If you go to this website you can also find the database which shows a summary of ALL listed adverse side effects of all the vaccines--VERY interesting stuff. You can scroll down and find plenty of "shoulder problems" like ours. And apparently only 10% of people actually report their adverse reactions. So I am convinced there IS a definite connection, even though I have had 3 doctors so far tell me there is NO connection. Well, it has been 3 weeks for me since my flu shot in my left arm. I started PT today and tomorrow I finally get my MRI. Although this shot was mandatory for my job, work comp is not covering me. Thank God I have insurance. My ortho doc also approved me for 6 weeks off work, so I am in the process of filing for disability. The hardest part for me is not being able to swim! I feel awful for anyone out there that does not have insurance. I do believe that there is a way to receive compensation (save all your bill statements) from the state: www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation. Thanks to all who post and share their stories!!View Thread
Hi "Myarmhurtstoo"!! THANK YOU for responding to my post! (Its me "whatanightmare")
Wow, I read some of that presentation (starts at about page 15) VERY interesting stuff. Thanks for sharing that--I'm printing out the pages that cover the SIRVA info. Today is the 9th day after my injection and the 4th day on the Medrol Pak. Yesterday was probably the worse day, but this morning I have to say the pain is slightly better, although I am much stiffer. I definitely have a frozen shoulder and I have been icing it (I was putting the heating pad on it, but read that I should be icing it). Trying to do a little Range of Motion with it too. It started "clicking" when I move it too! Neither of my shoulders have EVER done that! In fact I have never had a problem with my shoulders. I am very muscular since I swim and work out. I just can't believe this is happening to me--the pain is awful. Hard to imagine what it would feel like without the steroids or Mobic that I take once a day. I've had to take Vicodan to help me sleep at night too.
I got a phone call from the administrator at my job yesterday--apparently they are NOT going to cover me and have denied me workers comp! Well, of course this is workers comp--it happened at my work AND they required it. I have to use my PTO (sick time) for days off and I don't have many hours. Thank heavens I DO have insurance, so I have made an appt. to see my ortho doctor on monday. I think its important that I start PT as soon as possible. But I am still going to try and file a work comp claim. I also found out that the CDC does have a compensation program for those injured. But you have to wait at least 6 months before filing a claim. Have you looked into that? BTW, I did file a report to VAERS. I wish I could find more recent information on all of this. Like you, I also believe that it has more to do with the actual site of the injection and also the proper needle. My opinion is that the dead virus is the safest part of the vaccine--but we can never discount the possibility of a reaction from the adjuvant (the "other nasty stuff in the cocktail").
I'm sorry to hear you are having problems with your right shoulder now, but so relieved to hear that the left shoulder is finally better. I guess I just have to be patient and accept that this is going to take time. I suppose I can deal with a few months (just hope its not going to take years!) What choice do I have? lol. Trying to stay positive. Thanks again for sharing your posts and for the encouragement as well!View Thread
Just realized that "Myarmhurtstoo" posted some great links in one of her previous posts. I am going to this website to fill out the VAERS online: http://vaers.hhs.gov/esub/index. Thanks to "Myarmhurtstoo" for posting all the valuable links. By the way, its been a long time since she posted--I wonder if she is better now???View Thread
I also just got a flu shot (10/6/2011). That was 7 days ago. The injection didn't hurt that much, but my arm started to get sore a few hours later. By the next day I could hardly work at my job (I'm a nurse & work in the O.R.) But I figured it might be sore for a day or two. Well, the pain got worse and has not gotten better after an entire week now. The pain radiates from my deltoid down into my arm and up into my shoulder blade and neck. I have had trouble sleeping (can't lay on that side) Cannot lift my arm without extreme pain. Difficult to get dressed, carry my purse, or even push off (bear weight) that arm to get out of bed. It cracks and crunches in the shoulder joint too. I get sharp pain if I move it laterally or even reach across my chest. I also googled "arm pain after flu shot" and this forum came up. Reading that there are others out there experiencing exactly what I am is comforting (so I'm NOT crazy!) BUT... I am so worried because NOBODY is posting that they are getting better! Even afters months and years!! I cannot imagine living with this pain for a long period of time! Please if there is anybody out there that IS feeling better--please post! I am a 50 year old female who is very healthy and very athletic. I am a cyclist and also LOVE to swim. I cannot raise my arm above my head--swimming is impossible right now and I'm so scared I will never swim again. I am very depressed but mostly very angry. I never wanted the flu shot and do not believe in injecting anything foreign into our bodies when we are healthy to begin with. This vaccination is mandatory at my job since I'm a nurse and believe me, I am making sure they pay for all of my medical expenses! I have not been able to work so I am getting disability for the next week, but worry about how I'll feel after that. My nurse supervisor gave me the shot and I trust her--she is a good nurse. But it IS possible she injected it too high in my deltoid. I talked to her yesterday and she was very upset. Nobody else has had a reaction where I work. I filled out an incident report and she sent me to employee health where an MD evaluated me. He looked at me like I was crazy! However he did diagnose me with bursitis and frozen shoulder. He prescribed a Medrol pack for a week and also PT. I have always taken Mobic once a day and I think if I didn't the pain would even be worse!! Reading about a few other people that have ended up with a rotator cuff tear really frightens me. I have done nothing prior to that flu shot that could've caused this. I didn't even swim the week before I got it. It IS definitely from the shot. I am going to work on contacting the CDC and filling out a VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) There is an Advisory Commission called SIRVA (Shoulder Injury Related to Vaccine Administration) for which the CDC and FDA are working on a reporting protocol and information bulletin. I feel strongly that those out there having this problem should be compensated by the CDC--at least to cover their medical expenses. I haven't done it yet, but apparently you can file a claim by calling 1-800-338-2382 or visiting the website www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation.View Thread