The key words I see are "short needle" and "pinched the skin". My nurse did the same. What happens (my opinion after much research) is that they only pinch the skin where there is little muscle such as at the top of the arm or at the shoulder. If they inject it in the "meaty area" of the deltoid muscle they don't need to pinch it. The vaccine needs to be injected into the muscle tissue so it can be absorbed and distributed properly. Instead it is puddled (for lack of a better word) just under the skin and barely into any real muscle tissue. The short needle also prevents it going deep into muscle even though it works OK if injected in the right area. I know it's not smart at my age (70) but I cannot force myself to get another flu shot even though it's been over two years since I suffered. For whatever it's worth it took a lot of pain killers and 5 months suffering but I DID finally fully recover. I pray every night for people currently suffering like this.View Thread
I don't think Dr. Moser responds much to this anymore. This blog has been going on for at least a couple of years now. sorry to say you have the exact symptom. The pain will travel up and down the arm and shoulder and even up toward your neck and it will do it for a long time. It will get more severe for a couple of weeks and then just hurt like hell for several months. After that the pain will start to slowly subside and eventually go away. If my experience is at all typical the pain radiates up to the neck in the later stages. All I can advise is as many NSAIDs as you doctor will permit and strong non-NSAID pain killers to get a little sleep. I had a little very soft pillow I laid my arm on and tried not to move it. Also my right arm and grip got very strong from massaging my left arm. It will heal but you're in for a very rough coming months.View Thread
It's a real shame. Every year at flu season this blog gets a new group of people suffering from either careless or unknowing medical providers who give the injection way too high up on or above the deltoid muscle. Wish I knew a way to get the word out to all the medical schools, universities, and training centers in the country. This is PREVENTABLE and MUST stop. Maybe somebody knows somebody in the news media and we can publicize it to the point where everybody knows to NOT let them give you a shot that high. Hang in there everybody. Mine took 4 and a half months and that seems to be pretty quick. Most take 6 months or more of ridiculously high levels of pain.View Thread
I got my shot last year in October. It was mid February of this year before it finally went away. During that time I took the maximum inflamatory medicine that was safe (NSAID) and it helped but it only covered about 12 to 16 hours of the day. I took maximum pain killers at night Vicoden and Percocet to get 2 or 3 hours sleep. Lots of massage and Aspercreme MAX eased it a little bit. The pain will migrate around a lot. One thing I noticed that it was most painful when it migrated up to my neck but that also seemed to be the end point because after a couple of weeks of mostly neck area pain it started diminishing pretty quickly. Hope you can beat my mid February date for it to end.View Thread
You're probably right in most cases mikemike but my experience was just the opposite. For over 15 years I've been getting my flu shots in the cafeteria of my workplace in an assembly line atmosphere with absolutely no problem. This time I had retired so had it done in my doctor's office by his nurse. NEVER AGAIN will she stick a needle in my arm. It took 4 months but I am finally fully recovered and do not intend to go through that again.View Thread
You will heal but it will take considerable time. Nobody heals in less than 2 months and most take closer to 6. Anti-inflammatory pills at highest dosage allowed and non-NSAID pain killers to sleep is what got me through it.
My ordeal started on October 3rd, 2012. I managed to quit taking the pills 2 weeks ago although I did use Aspercreme Max to ease some soreness and haven't had any pain at all now for over a week. That puts my healing at a little under 4 months. Hope yours is shorter.
Don't give up hope. The tunnel is long but there is a light at the end of it.View Thread
Did you get the shot VERY HIGH up on your arm, almost at the shoulder? If not the pain should be short duration and go away in a few days. If you DID get it high then I regret to say you're in for a long, painful journey but you will heal. It takes months and usually requires some anti-inflammatory medication as well as some pain pills to get any sleep at all. Good luck with it.
I'm approaching 4 months now and it's pretty much healed. No medication for over a week now.View Thread
It's been over three months now and although I am not completely pain free it's nearly so. I take an occasional anti-inflammatory pill when my arm feels "puffy" or aches and it goes away. No more pain pills required at night or any other pills for that matter except for the 81mg aspirin I've been taking for years under doctor's order.
By the end of the fourth month (Feb 3rd) I think I'll be pretty much free of this. I thank God for the healing. The usual seems to be 6 months to a year so I'm happy with this. My prayers for all those suffering. Take heart. There's a light at the end of this tunnel.
Tell all those doubting doctors, nurses, and neighbors to go to hell. We KNOW what we're talking about and if they doubt it to request their next flu shot right at the top of their arm where it meets the shoulder. Well, I guess I wouldn't wish that on anybody so forgive me for venting.
There is one board certified family physician on this chat who had it happen to them and is asking for information. You'll just have to search as it is a month or two old by now. Every doctor I've talked to has refused to believe the pain can go upward into the spine and neck but we all know that's as false as their denial that the flu shot caused it. If my experience is any indicator the pain moved toward my back and neck toward the end of the healing process. It really hurt although Aspercream Max helped a little as did massage. At the early stage is stayed pretty much in the shoulder and migrated back and forth to my hand.
Hang in there. You will heal but it will be a long and at times painful healing. Above all don't lose hope.
You bring up a good point that almost nobody has brought to light and that is the depression that goes with this. The thought that a careless nurse could cause me a lifetime of suffering was almost more than I could handle. The folks on this blog were my salvation . . . knowing I was not alone. At 68 I wasn't sure if I even wanted to live any longer if it had to be with that kind of pain and suffering. Perhaps I should take this time to thank "MYARMHURTSTOO" and the others here. You probably saved my life by giving me hope and keeping me from making a BAD decision.View Thread