Here's the point I want to get across: When I am told to sign a form that releases parties from liability and also says I acknowledge that the vaccine my child is about to receive could cause temporary or permanent disability and/or death in my child I not only DO NOT feel wrong or foolish to ask questions but feel even more motivated to do so.
How can people act like I'm some crazy woman to not just accept what I am told under such circumstances without wanting to know more.
My other point would be this: Don't think for a second either of us cares for our children more or less than the other because we are passionate on opposite ends of the spectrum concerning vaccines.View Thread
Here is some reading if you're interested in my sources. I can't recall at the moment where I read the story of Salk, but I know that he and a panel of his peers concluded his vaccine caused polio cases.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2001/08/18/vaccine-myths2.aspx "Surprisingly, vaccination has never actually been clinically proven to be effective in preventing disease, for the simple reason that no researcher has directly exposed test subjects to diseases (nor may they ethically do so). The medical community's gold standard, the double blind, placebo-controlled study, has not been used to compare vaccinated and unvaccinated people, and so the practice remains unscientifically proven." The first page of this article is also very informative and thought provoking.
Last I checked the Amish community where they do not generally vaccinate had 2 children out of 2,000 with Autism. Yes the two that were vaccinated.
I'm saying people are fools if they believe everything Big Pharma is selling without asking questions.
Does it not bother you that there was Pig DNA in a vaccine? Do you not realize what else is in those vaccines. It's not just about autism nor only about mercury.
I'm not trying to argue the autism debate. That's not the original debate. It's also not my main concern with vaccinations.
I have read extensively on this subject. I am an informed individual. I realize I won't change your minds. That's fine by me. But really open your eyes.
Did you know that Polio started to decline before the Polio vaccine was introduced? Did you also know that Saulk (the guy who invented the polio vaccine) not only retracted his beliefs in the vaccine but believed that the vaccine itself caused a huge outbreak of polio?
Here's a place for anyone to start. It's called National Vaccine Information Center. It's not about being against vaccines, it's about vaccine safety. NVIC.org
All I want is for there to be unbiased research done. Double blind studies. Scientists need to show me that shooting toxins in myself or my child is proven necessary. So far they can not.View Thread
I say no to vaccines. I don't think they are safe and I don't believe the people who make them have our best interests in mind.
I'm replying to JennaLeigh1723 because I just want to point out that this argument that it is "unproven" that vaccines cause Autism doesn't mean vaccines "don't" cause Autism.
I'm sure everyone here knows that last year there was a recall on the Rota-virus vaccine because it contained Swine DNA, right? Do the people who are so adamant that it's horrible to not vaccinate know what's IN the vaccines you give your children? I do.
I bet those are all the same people who ran out and lined up for the swine flu shots??View Thread
The ads themselves sound stupid. I understand they are trying to get parents to stop being in denial, but obviously it's only making them defensive.
"..skeptics worried that discrimination toward overweight people will only increase." I really don't see that happening. Americans are extremely discriminatory towards obese people and always have been. There's just more obese people now.
How about STOP cutting school funding every time the government needs a dime! Children should have gym class every day and be able to run around at recess.
Maybe instead of putting their money towards these ads they could print up flyers with nutritional advice and maybe even recipes to send home with (all) children.
I think this obesity 'epidemic' began with these children's parent's generation and because they don't know better, or probably where to begin, the bad habits are passed on to the kids. It does NOT mean these parents care any less about their children than the next parent.
Then on top of what the parents taught them we now live in a world where if a kid wants to know the difference between an oak tree and a maple tree they can just hop on a computer and see. It's not just video games and 500 tv channels, it's a loss of curiosity and desire to go out and explore all the incredible things outside.
Parents have to make kids GO OUTSIDE. And unfortunately with so many single parents it's so easy and common to be guilt ridden. It makes it hard to say no or make them do what's best for them.
Oh yeah, so original question -- I don't think it's necessarily effective or negative, I think it's stupid. Put your money to better use.View Thread
Obviously you're passionate about what you're saying, but it is honestly an ignorant way of thinking. Not all people are the same and quite a few people NEED protein (including animal protein) in their diets. I am one of them.
I'm glad that the vegan way of life works for you. You should not try so hard to preach it as the one and only way of life for the rest of us.View Thread