yeah...you are absolutely nuts. 200 years ago adults in the western hemisphere were enslaving other adults because of the color of their skin. and while I am not ignorant to the fact that slavery still exists today, we have progressed.
can't think of adults behaving any more poorly than in their act of enslaving others because of their skin tone.View Thread
am really tired of hearing the car insurance / homeowners insurance analogies. they don't apply here. i can chose to not drive a car or own a home, and therefore forego the insurance.
there is no comparable choice with the individual mandate. by virtue of breathing within our borders, i am forced to purchase a product i may not want.
arguing that everyone at some point in their life will require health care, and that there are people who require health care who cannot afford it, as reason for forcing me to buy a product i neither want nor need now is inane.
here is a more appropriate analogy: everyone in this country will have to file a tax return, and not all citizens have the knowledge to complete the returns themselves or the financial means to pay an attorney or accountant to complete the forms for them. should we force all citizens to pay for tax filing services for those in need?
is it not more efficient and in the spirit of this country to allow the market to handle that, and is the market not serving those users (think non-profits and charitable organizations) with free tax filing assistance during tax season?
the tax code is massive, bureaucratic, and unfair, and good people suffer because of it. and all people are subject to it at some point in their lives. the answer is not to force some people to pay for the assistance others may need.
i don't want your universal health care product. freedom in this country is not being forced to purchase it.View Thread
you're missing the point. everyone should pay for themselves. i don't want to pay for you. period. that is not the same as saying i don't want to pay for myself.
if you can't pay, as sad as that is, then don't rob me as a result.
i can't pay for the flat screen tv i want. should you have to buy it for me.
i can't afford the organic vegetables every night of the week in this city, despite the claimed health benefits, or have the time to prepare them...so i eat out more than i should. are you expected to buy them for me and prepare my meals?
there is nothing wrong with being selfish with the money i earn and the time i devote to earning it.View Thread
wow...are the two of you (who have responded) serious? you are justifying a reason(s) for when it is ok for the government to force you to buy a private product?
how about should the government force you to purchase low fat foods (since in the aggregate, a population dieting on low fat foods would presumably have fewer medical conditions long term and thus alleviate some of the costs contributing to high premiums)?
or should the government force me to buy birth control or condoms (since in the aggregate, a population not procreating will reduce the population's size long term and thus alleviate some of the costs of contributing to high premiums)?
the people in this country have gotten entirely too complacent about what they allow the government to require of them.
re: "I don't see that there is a good reason to give married people tax breaks, etc. It's government intrusion in private life."
think it through from the government's perspective. statistically, single people have less children than married people. less children = less adults in the future. and less adults in the future = less potential* tax payers.
*i say "potential" because there are stats that over 40% of the adult population in this country pay no taxes (and the majority of that number are in the lower tax brackets, not the "1%")
so yeah, the US government discriminates against single people when it comes to tax rates because they just don't contribute as much as married people (any wonder it is taking so long for gay marriage laws to be universal? while lesbians can certainly have children, gay men cannot...and adoption is not creating another potential taxpayer, so the government has no incentive)View Thread
that's not kindness...that's forced contribution. kindness is when you have a choice to be good or bad, and you chose good. taxpayers who have their income withheld each week to fund medicare and medicaid without their input are not being kind. if my employer asked me each week, "Do you want to contribute to medicare and medicaid?" and I said, "yes" then you can call me kind. compulsory behavior is not kindness; voluntary behavior is kindness.
i love that you love your fellow Americans, and are appreciative of the welfare our government demands. but don't confuse the source, or the intentions of those who fund those programs.
and no, socialism is not working in America. socialism has not worked in Europe. (wait for the london riots to reach chicago and new york). capitalism works in America. it's what the founders intended...no entitlements.
i wish you the best of luck...supporting four children alone with limited income is not easy in any city. and kindness is to be admired and encouraged...it is what every major religion in the world has taught for centuries (doesn't really matter which, they all value kindness to others). but the entitlement programs are not about kindness. they are about submission and votes. and they are used by political parties of all stripes to demonize each other and divide the country into haves and have nots, rich and poor, millionaires and joe plumbers. socialized medicine is and will be no different.
you should want more for your four children. you should want that they mature in a country with the best medicine and healthcare services in the world. only competition will achieve that.
while you keep looking for a country that has successfully implemented socialism, find me an industry that has succeeded with a union (another entitlement culture where everyone is supposed to support everyone else, and capitalism and competition is not only discouraged but reduced to mortal sin)
exactly...find me a country where socialism has worked, and i'll pay for your next doctor's visit (that is, if you last long enough on the line since the doctor:patient ratio will be abysmal, and if you qualify under your government's definition of "in need")View Thread