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I guess the first thing I would say to you is that if your husband is suggesting marriage counselling then you should go. This is an indication that he wants to move past the issues you are facing in your marriage. Marriage counselling gives both a chance to air your problems with someone who is not emotionally connected to you and can guide you towards a better way of communicating. Your son is another issue altogether but the stresses caused by his problems are causing problems in your marriage. The two of you should also seek counselling separately to help you both work through your own issues. I can't stress how much this can help. I think a lot of people have pre-conceived ideas of what counselling is and are scared of it. Trust me, it is worth it. You may need to "shop around" for the right one because like many things, it's not a "one size fits all" profession. I think that you need to put some simple boundaries up about what type of language you will and won't accept from both your husband and your son. There is no need to use yelling or screaming to get your point across. The simplest and most effective way is to calmly state that you cannot continue a conversation if it is aimed at laying blame at anyone's feet. Laying blame and going over and over old issues does not help you to move forward. What you need is to find a way to together deal with the problems your son's issues have brought to your lives and your marriage and together you will find ways to help him while helping yourselves and keeping your marriage strong. Depression plays out in many ways and can afflict even the strongest person. It is important for someone living with depression or a depressed person to instill boundaries and ensure those around know what those boundaries are.View Thread

Thank you. I can tell you it is not an easy journey and sometimes this approach may not work. I stopped enabling it while at the same time letting my husband know I was there for him but that if he wasn't prepared to make some positive changes to help address his own depression then I could do nothing to help him. While he continued to allow it to define him it was destroying the rest of us and I wasn't about to let that happen. I was prepared to walk if I had to but it was a last resort. In the end, he made the decision, based on what he believed was me trying to control him and the way he felt. He enjoyed, in some strange way, the way he let his depression define him as a person. It was like a comfortable friend he wasn't prepared to let go. He had defined himself by that for many years and didn't really know how to live without that definition.
I hope you all have a wonderful festive season with the ones you love.View Thread

No I have not left my partner. We have both worked very hard to address the issues and each day things get a little bit better. Now, compared to 12 months ago we are both able to recognise the signs and talk about it openly and therefore address issues before they take over the entire family. I began this journey about 18 months ago. I sought counselling first as I could see our family life and our marriage were very quickly disintegrating. My husband at first refused to acknowledge that my concerns were real. He felt I was just trying to make him feel worse about his depression by making him feel like he was weak because he suffered from depression. In fact, this was completely the opposite. I wanted him to acknowledge that his depression was affecting us all and by not addressing the issues he would soon find himself alone because I was about at my wits end. I love him and wanted nothing more than for our marriage and family to work. I asked him to seek counselling. He did - two or three sessions - we then tried couples counselling and each time he just got angry and wanted to attack me and felt he was justified in doing so because there was someone there to listen to him. 12 months ago he decided and informed me, in front of the counsellor, that our marriage was never going to work. That night I asked him to leave the house and not to make contact with me for several days. I was so angry. I had been trying to get him to either commit or walk for some time. I was hurt because he couldn't talk to me about how he felt and would rarely even open up in front of the counsellor. During this time, my counsellor was pretty much encouraging me to walk away from the marriage. She felt I had done everything that could be reasonably asked of someone and it wasn't working. My husband stayed away but soon realised he had probably make a big mistake and asked for forgiveness. I told him that I never wanted our marriage to break down so would give him a chance but I would not let him return to the family home until he had addressed some of his issues and was willing to work on being a husband and a father and to prove this before he returned home. He moved back in I believe a little too soon as things were great for a while but he had not addressed the issues that were holding him back from engaging with us.
Little by little though I managed to help him see things in a different light. It was very, very hard work but I stuck with it. We had a few nasty issues arise during that time (no violence) but those things have strengthened our marriage as we were able to work through together the details of the dramas and how they affected all of us, including him. For the first time in years he's been engaging with me and able to communicate how he feels which helps me no end to understand him and for us to come up with some strategies for him to recognise when he's feeling like that and to be strong enough to ask for some space or to to explain why he's like that rather than just getting angry and sulking and blaming us all for the reasons he is feeling the way he is. It's not been an easy road but life has become so much fuller and our family is much tighter as a result.View Thread


The challenges you outline in trying to explain to your wife how you feel are the same challenges my husband described to me. First of all I want to tell you how wonderful it is that want to make a difference and that you have asked for help, not only from a therapist but you have sought some answers on your own from people who have suffered through a similar situation. I find that seeking information from a forum such as this does wonders as it makes you feel much less alone knowing that there are people going through the same thing. Not everyone understands. You are right, your depression, actions and moods will be affecting your wife. I am a wife who suffers living with a husband whose depression can sometimes be so all consuming he stops seeing anything but that. Your moods, feelings, actions will affect her in such a way that she will begin to suffer from depression as well but feel like she's not allowed to because her burdens in dealing with you are so heavy that she can't allow herself to go down too. To you, her chattiness, her expectations etc will be burdensome but she is probably trying desperately to seek some type of normalcy in her life. I can guarantee she feels all alone and her job is to pull you through too and keep up with all the chores and her own feelings. Don't ever dismiss her if she says she understands how you feel because most likely she does more than you will ever know. The partners of those who suffer from depression are most often forgotten. They're seen as the ones who must change their behaviours to accommodate the one suffering from depression. Anything less would label them as unsupportive and not able to understand.
It's great that you're trying to understand what triggers your reactions so that you can have more control over them in the future. Remember, your wife and family are victims of your depression also. It's a hard reality but it's true but they're also their to help you just as you should help them - that's what family is and shutting them out or assuming they don't understand is only insulting their intelligence.
Take care, keep up the great work. Keep us posted on your progress.View Thread




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