Are Drs. Neal Barnard and McDougall actual diabetics, as Jenny Ruhl and Dr. Berstein are, with first hand personal information as to the effects of different foods on the level of blood sugars?
For me, when I attempted to follow Dean Ornish's complex carbohydrate diet and cut out fats and cut down on proteins, my triclycerides jumped to over 425, and I was at least 50 pounds overweight. Now my triglycerides are 70 and I am 70 pounds slimmer. Some people can tolerate and do well on high carbs, and some do better on lower carbs and higher good fats. If you are experimenting, it is my opinion that you buy extra strips and test 1 and 2 hour after occasional high carb meals. The damage that is done following meals is high and shows up sooner than the fasting blood sugar level rising.View Thread
I agree (with smiles - lol) to all posts lately so I don 't get wiped off again. I had mentioned earlier ( and got bombed) that I learned early in my testing to buy my own inexpensive meter from a local store and strips on line, so that I could test whenever I wanted to without having to turn months of numbers in to Medicare like I did at first. Works great for me. I will test often just before I take out the car to go shopping for a few hours to know at what point I might be feeling the need to snack and be sure I have nuts, etc. with me. It's great to be able to take control of one's own health in a positive manner. Good luck with all your efforts.View Thread
I am somewhat knowledgeable with the Zone books since that idea of lower carbs works for me. The percentages are 40% of calories from carbohydrates, 30% from proteins, and 30 % from good fats. On your plate that looks like 3/4 of you plate covered with veggies and greens, a piece of meat the size of a deck of cards, and maybe 1 teaspoon to 1 T. of added fats such as nut butters or nuts. He does count only non vegetable proteins such as meats, eggs and dairy simply for convenience because plant proteins such as beans and legumes also contain a high amount of concentrated carbs. That part of his diet computation is arbitrary to make it easier. He sets his calorie suggestions with a complicated equation of height, weight, body fat, and a big part of it is the amount and kind of exercise. He has different calorie limits for different levels of exercise. I plug in "moderate." The calories that work for me are 1200 a day depending on exercise that day and because I weigh 137 pounds.
I do test at times including the 1 hr and 2 hr after a meal only if I need to gain a certain knowledge about foods and habits. Other times I can skip the morning, because unless I had snacks late at night, or attended a party, I know what the morning range is. I am proactive in managing my blood sugar and A1c which can range fro 5.4 to 6.4 depending on: any steroids or antibiotics, any disease such as colds or infections, any recent surgery, any lack or exercise such as following surgery, eating any more than minimum grains, etc. I know my body well and confer with my doctor on any changes.
My diet consists of some animal low fat protein and some protein from beans and legumes daily - but only 1/4 cup because of the carbs, little or no grains with no cereals, pies, cakes, baked goods, rolls, flour or any kind, limited fruits and NO fruit juices, but lots of non-starchy veggies and greens, some low fat yogurt and cottage cheese, limited other cheeses, and maybe 1/4 cup of nuts a day.View Thread
Thank you all for the detailed posts on diet and their effects on you. Our bodies are all different. One of the PBS programs I watched was about determining whether your body was a carb user or protein user. I definitely can't tolerate more starch, but others can.
In Jenny Ruhl's wonderful book "Blood Sugar 101" she ends up stating that a diabetic person can decide what combination of starches/sugars or more meds they can live with COMFORTABLY. That makes sense. I don't particularly like potatoes, and baked desert leave a lard taste on my tongue, so there is no contest there -- I will cut back on sugars and starches to avoid taking meds. For other, staying as much as possible with their previous diet and supplementing with more meds is their preference.
Statins for high cholesterol now carry a warning that they can cause a rise in blood sugar, and having high blood sugar can cause your lipids to rise. Go figure -- an endless circle. I am experimenting to see if I can get my A1c still lower to bring down my total cholesterol. Dr. Bernstein's writings say that he has normal lipids even when eating very low carbs and greater amounts of fats, even saturated. He has been insulin dependent for 60 years and previously had many complications of diabetes such as peripheral neuropathy. I'll keep you posted as to my blood test results.View Thread
Dolores, Now you've got my interest in just how you do this Dr. Mcdougall whole plant food diet. How did you discover that you were a diabetic and what were your numbers at first? Please tell us your story over those 23 years. Did you try other plans or lose a lot of weight?
I looked up Dr. Mcdougall up on the internet and read many of his articles. He did state that people who are insulin deficient will possibly need to have insulin injections. He particularly mentions those who are slim and have diabetes. He also includes a lot of exercise. In another link mentioned recently about a study of vegan diets as compared with the ADA standard diet, the vegan diet had more weight loss and they said that was accounted for the lower blood sugars. Weight loss will usually bring down blood sugars in most people.
The problem for me and some others on this site is that in being slim to begin with, and having insufficient insulin to handle even normal amounts of carbs, changing the diet to include many starchy carbs makes the blood sugar skyrocket. All we can do is to try to keep the number of carbs we eat to be equal to what our pancreas can handle if possible, exercise like crazy to have our muscles burn up the carbs we eat, and take increasing meds to handle the sugar still in our blood so it doesn't damage our organs.View Thread