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I read that session. Seth is recommending vegetarian diet "but not just quite yet". I find it amusing, like...

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Reply: TC Campbell

I do remember your post on that.I think it was on the McDougall forum right before Dr McDougall banned you.To...

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Fructose, insulin resistance and diabetes

Dolores, You may find that interesting (see FIG.1). This is a very thought provoking though speculative...

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track your plaque

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Lifestyle counseling and supplementation with flaxseed or walnuts influence the management of metabolic...

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Lifestyle counseling and supplementation with flaxseed or walnuts influence the management of metabolic syndrome. Wu H , Pan A , Yu Z , Qi Q , Lu L , Zhang G , Yu D , Zong G , Zhou Y , Chen X , Tang L , Feng Y , Zhou H , Chen X , Li H , Demark-Wahnefried W , Hu FB , Lin X . SourceKey Laboratory of Nutrition and Metabolism, Institute for Nutritional Sciences, Shanghai Institutes for Biological Sciences, Chinese Academy of Sciences and Graduate School of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, Shanghai 200031, China.
AbstractA healthy lifestyle may ameliorate metabolic syndrome (MetS); however, it remains unclear if incorporating nuts or seeds into lifestyle counseling (LC) has additional benefit. A 3-arm, randomized, controlled trial was conducted among 283 participants screened for MetS using the updated National Cholesterol Education Program Adult Treatment Panel III criteria for Asian Americans. Participants were assigned to a LC on the AHA guidelines, LC flaxseed (30 g/d) (LCF), or LC walnuts (30 g/d) (LCW) group. After the 12-wk intervention, the prevalence of MetS decreased significantly in all groups: -16.9% (LC), -20.2% (LCF), and -16.0% (LCW). The reversion rate of MetS, i.e. those no longer meeting the MetS criteria at 12 wk, was not significantly different among groups (LC group, 21.1%; LCF group, 26.6%; and LCW group, 25.5%). However, the reversion rate of central obesity was higher in the LCF (19.2%; P = 0.008) and LCW (16.0%; P = 0.04) groups than in the LC group (6.3%). Most of the metabolic variables (weight, waist circumference, serum glucose, total cholesterol, LDL cholesterol, apolipoprotein (Apo) B, ApoE, and blood pressure) were significantly reduced from baseline in all 3 groups. However, the severity of MetS, presented as the mean count of MetS components, was significantly reduced in the LCW group compared with the LC group among participants with confirmed MetS at baseline (P = 0.045). Our results suggest that a low-intensity lifestyle education program is effective in MetS management. Flaxseed and walnut supplementation may ameliorate central obesity. Further studies with larger sample sizes and of longer duration are needed to examine the role of these foods in the prevention and management of MetS.
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Reply: Eggs, mortality and Dr. Greger

Table 1 Characteristics of 21,327 participants according to categories of egg consumption in the Physicians'...

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Reply: Dr Michale Greger

Heretk is right about that too...

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Reply: Esselstyn

It worked for Dr Esselstyn's patients and I hope it works as well for you.Keep us posted. JC

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Reply: Dolores/Didi

H, I can see why people are sent home from the ER. With me, an EKG was normal and showed no problem. A...

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Reply: High stroke risk in vegans

H, I read the China Study and I seem to remember that Campbell specifically said that meat does correlate...

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Reply: counter to Dr. T.C. Campbell

While discussing the research and how it was conducted and what the results actually showed, don't forget...

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Reply: Plants suck!

Dr. Mirkin mentions something called Neu 5c which is found in red meat but not fish or poultry. It is...

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Reply: Telomerase increase with Ornish Diet

telonaut, Thank you for your comments. You may be correct. I am not 100% sure about the interpretation of the...

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Reply: From Jeff N.

I saw that! I think he is saying what other more "titled" but fake colleagues have failed to observe. He is...

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Reply: My 1999 "suici de" by double bacon and eggs

Sometimes, not as much as back then. I agree, American and Canadian bacon are too salty, nitrates and sugar,...

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Reply: A funny thing happened

I don't know, nor I think does he. He thinks he knows and forms his opinions to the public with what appears to...

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Reply: diabetes

Auto formatting broke the point (b ) under point (a ). Sorry, I have to repost it, should be: _ a ) reduce...

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Be firm

"I am going to try to get the suggested blood tests above" Do more than just suggest....tell them this is the...

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Reply: Oxymoron--diet debate support group

Dolores, Thank you for supporting your little brother. Re: that comment from the medical student...

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Reply: potatoes

I agree with him but up to a point. There seems to be a correlation with very high high carbohydrate diet and...

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Reply: vitamin D

One thing I need to make clear.Until the data is clear I plan to continue my daily multi vit which has 1000Mg of...

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Reply: I am a 24 year old type 1 brittle diabetic/cerial

I am sorry but I am a type 2 diabetic, not type one. Two entirely different things. I have seen...

Posted by DoloresTeresa

I am sorry but I am a type 2 diabetic, not type one. Two entirely different things. I have seen differences of opinion on treating all types of diabetes. Someone named dr. Bernstein uses a very very low carb diet and gives himself (and recommends) several shots of insulin per day to keep himself at around 83 at all times. This has worked for him for years. He eats 6 carbs for breakfast and 12 each for lunch and dinner and I cannot remember the number for snacks. It sounds to me from what you said that if you tried to control that closely that your sugars would bottom out and you would be dangerously hypoglycemic frequently. What does your endo say?

Here is what dr. Fuhrman says in his book on pages 190 and 191, "Eat to Live": He says all diabetics have accelerated artery damage and have a high mortality rate from heart disease. Therefore he says that any diet for t1 or t2 should at least attempt to reduce the risk of heart attack, stroke or other cardiovascular events. "When diabetics take a more aggressive and progressive nutritional approach they can prevent many of the complications that befall diabetics". Neither Barnard, McDougall nor Fuhrman would recommend ever using any processed seed oils or butter, mayo or other fats or meats or dairy. Fuhrman would recommend beans as the starch and nuts and seeds while McDougall and Barnard would recommend in addition to beans, squashes, rice, sweetpotatoes, corn. Of course you would have to judge the amounts. Fuhrman's book recommends fish twice a week for diabetics but you would have to ask him if that applies to both 1 and 2 diabetes.

He continues--"I find my type 1 diabetic patients requiring about half as much insulin as they did prior to adopting my lifesaving program

He says--THEIR SUGARS DON'T SWING WILDLY UP AND DOWN, and since they are using less insulin, they have less chance of developing potentially dangerous hypoglycemic episodes.

You can google Fuhrman but to ask him questions and be a member of his internet group you have to pay.

Dr. Mcdougall often answers questions if you e mail him directly and you can go on the discussion group, (there are several different topics) and ask if there are any other t1s using his diet. If you go on his site there is also a video somewhere on diabetes but I do not know if it applies to t1. You can also ask members of the group if his book, McDougall's Medicine has a chapter on t1 diabetes.

Dr. Bernard says in his book that the same type of diet for type 2 diabetes is likely to be enormously beneficial for people with t1 as well. This is hardly research and I do not think from this statement that he has studied t1. He does mention the DCCT study which showed that tight control with insulin prevented more complications.

I am sorry I could not be more help and hope you keep in touch with your journey to better health.

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Reply: old myth??

I wonder if people on the McDougall board have thyroid problems because of diabetes. Or having formerly...

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Re: Let us change the experiment a bit and give people heroin on day one and withdraw the heroin on day two....

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vitamin D

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Reply: The 15 Theses

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Reply: Red Meat causes CVD, Cancer, premature death and e...

Does anyone have links to the original studies which show that when I eat spinach I am walking into the...

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Reply: The Masai and Atherosclerosis

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I agree, we should be looking critical at all evidence regardless whether it supports one theory or another. Not...

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Reply: track your plaque

Hmmmm. H, Is it possible that we have been talking at odds over many many months? I am diabetic and you...

Posted by DoloresTeresa

Hmmmm. H, Is it possible that we have been talking at odds over many many months? I am diabetic and you are not. My blood sugar this morning was 79. What is yours normally?

You were speculating, right? I remember years ago reading that Covert Bailey said that a fat person should walk and walk and walk because exercise increased mitochondria. So I am wondering if exercise added to diet (of course your diet proposals are speculative) would perk up all those mitochondria you speak of.

Did I understand you correctly? It looks like you said the best diet for a diabetic would be higher carb? If that is true you should write your theory on the web md diabetes support group where just about everyone is a religious low carber. ( And I believe all but 2 of the correspondents use meds and/or insulin. One person wrote in that she has been doing great on low carb for 15 years, her blood sugar levels are fine. She has been on insulin for the last nine years.)

I do not know if I can judge my own energy level. At my gym I can bike (so far) 7 to 8 miles on a stationary bike. I know I could go farther but I get bored and the seats are hard plastic and limit the amount of time I can sit pain free. On the recumbent bike I can go 12 to 15 miles and while the seats are softer I still get bored. I get everything done I need to do and babysit seven very active grandchildren. (A true test of stamina and energy is the length of time you can play Rapunzel and Princesses, go fish, War and chase around after a mobile one year old who, while God can't be everywhere at once, she seems to be.)

I do try to keep my calories to around 1200 per day but am sure many days I go over. I would have to say that if I were low carbing I would do the same thing.

I am pretty sure that it has been shown that Atkins dieters lose weight, not because of some anti laws of thermodynamics anomaly but because his diet is very satiating and they are not so hungry.

I know that the low carbers on the diabetes group eat very low carb and I know they eat eggs and meat and cheese but I do not know if you would consider this a high fat diet according to your own standards of high fat. To me it is very high fat.

How do you measure mitochondrial depletion?

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60 mins

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