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We debate the various types of diets.

Reply: things diet won't cure

My D is insufficient. However, I caught my foot on the bottom of the refrigerator door as I...

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things diet won't cure

Fell in the kitchen. Broke hip. Had replacement. Recovering after two weeks of rehab. Least...

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Reply: from TC Campbell

I repeat. The McDougall group is NOT a debate group as this is. If you want to be shut...

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Reply: vegetables don't correlate with benefits???

Jc, I was also overweight for many many years and did not eat a plant based diet although...

Posted by dteresa

Jc, I was also overweight for many many years and did not eat a plant based diet although my blood sugars were always normal after I changed from the SAD to a more Pritikin diet. I also indulged in pizza, ice cream and cheese doodles over the years. If you watch plant positive's videos you will find he says that there is something about a diabetic which predisposes him to damaged arteries even with the best diet. Maybe it is inevitable and I did have an MI at the age of 68. As my late father used to say--you are no spring chicken. So I am not a poster girl for the plant based diet although now my diet is 100% plant based. Don't take any bets on me however because I do have a DEstent in place and even I am not totally cheerful about my chances. The damage has already been done.

As to the Mediterranean diet--my grandfather was from a small town in Italy. He came here when he was 16 but maintained the eating habits he had as a boy. He lived into his nineties. I believe in his last years my mother, who was totally devoted to him, killed him by sneaking dairy, eggs and meat into his diet when he came to live with us. She thought she was "building him up". However, grandpop normally ate very little meat and then only meat on the bone, like chicken necks and feet. He ate lots of white Italian, bread, olive oil, pasta and he picked his own dandelions, poke weed and mushrooms. And made his own wine both from grapes and dandelions. If he ate sweets at all, it was very abstemiously. I remember a sweet he brought back from Italy once. It was in a little cardboard box about two inches by one inch in size a nougat with almonds. I didn't like it.

His friends ate the same way. Never large portions. And he walked a whole lot. He was in his eighties when I left home and I remember him walking about 5 miles to the cemetery which had open fields where he picked dandelions. He came here to work to pay off his father's debts and remained, except for visits back to Italy, for the rest of his life. I know where he came from was not a place where a diet of anything but the necessities was eaten. I do not think they had the luxury of lots of fats and sweets. I had one aunt who I was told worked one whole summer in the fields for a farmer. Her payment for the whole summer was a jar of olive oil which I assume was a very large jar but a jar never the less. Hardly something you would be wasting and would most likely conserve to last till the next summer.

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Reply: Didi's misconceptions about Jimmy Moore's new diet

There is one thing that I have seldom if ever heard considered. There is no way to know if...

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There is one thing that I have seldom if ever heard considered. There is no way to know if Dr. Atkins or Jimmy Moore or anyone else is actually following the diet he writes about or recommends. People don't gain as much as Jimmy Moore seems to have gained overnight. For all anyone knows, the diet he proposes might be an excellent diet which he himself has failed to follow. It seems to me he had a lot at stake because of his very public profile. When he gained the first ten or twenty pounds he should have had a clue. As should we all when we start to gain. So the very low carb might indeed be a bad diet but did Mr. Moore actually follow it?

As to the calcium scan. I googled the test and have to admit what I read confused me. Firstly, I was surprised to find that although the scan can tell that you have calcium deposits it cannot specifically locate the arteries in which there are deposits. In our culture, the deposits increase with age which is not surprising because in this culture age increase the build up of plaque if you maintain whatever diet you were on that caused the buildup to begin with.

Also, I think someone on a group which I can't remember, mentioned he had a calcium scan which increased after being on a low fat and meat diet. However, I did read that you cannot use the scan to follow the progress of disease. In other words, continuing on the same diet that is causing blockages will not necessarily linearly show an increase in calcium deposits nor will a change in diet necessarily show a decrease.

Jimmy Moore is only about 41 years old. His lack of calcium deposits could mean that he is too young yet to have them show up, that he has young plaque that hasn't calcified, that cholesterol is building up in the walls of the arteries and even an angiogram wouldn't detect it, that his diet really is great and prevents arteriosclerosis, that he has that rare lipoprotein that allows him to eat any amount of cholesterol and saturated fat and not suffer artery damage.

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Reply: diabetes

Primitive Nutrition's latest set of videos have two in which he discusses insulin...

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Reply: Didi's misconceptions about Jimmy Moore's new diet

H, although you are a heretic and I am a member of the choir, you do not offend me. While...

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Reply: Too much iodine?

H, it wasn't tuna but not tuna. A recipe made with chickpeas that uses two tablespoons of...

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Reply: Didi's misconceptions about Jimmy Moore's new diet

H, I am surprised at you. You seem testy lately. For the second time you accused me of...

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Reply: microwaved potatoes=cancer???

I asked this question and I believe Jeff had a number of references, also referring back to...

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