My D is insufficient. However, I caught my foot on the bottom of the refrigerator door as I was closing it and at the same time walking into another room. I asked the doctors about osteoporosis and from the piece of bone they removed, apparently that is not a problem. However, I am now taking 1200 units of D per day but got the kind in pill form not in the oil capsules since I do not want to take the oil. I do not know if this will be effective. As everyone knows, blood levels of something do not always indicate whether or not it is doing whatever it is supposed to be doing. I am determined to get lots of sun starting as soon as the weather permits.
Also, had a ct scan in the ER and they gave me a whole list of tests I need. Now I have to decide if they are seeing things that would never bother me but go through all sorts of tests or if, a la McD I wait. So many things which sound great in theory make for tough decisions when it is you who has to decide.
Fell in the kitchen. Broke hip. Had replacement. Recovering after two weeks of rehab. Least fun I ever had in my life. I am now an old lady with a hip replacement. Bummer.
My daughters cooked for me because the food in the best rehab center in town is inedible. Meat, dairy, eggs, fats and oils and refined foods with an quarter cup of soggy vegetables. Everyone else enjoyed it and wouldn't want to eat what I was eating. Potatoes, rice and beans and huge raw vegetable salads. There were plenty of apples, oranges and bananas available at the rehab center.
Neither H or anyone on the plant based diet would be happy with a hospital diet. Guaranteed to please only the Standard American.
I repeat. The McDougall group is NOT a debate group as this is. If you want to be shut down, try disagreeing with the low carbers on the webmd diabetes support group. One of my posts referring to plantpositive was removed. And don't dare say anything negative about low carb gurus. And I have a surprise. Some on "that other group" do read what you say on here. So say what you want. It will be read.
Speaking of always wanting to be right. In one Peanuts cartoon, Lucy is staring at the ground and saying--look at that big black queen ant. All the other aunts are running around near the queen. Charlie Brown says--that isn't a queen aunt it's a black jelly bean. And Lucy says--I wonder how a jelly bean got to be queen? My ex used to say I reminded him of Lucy. Seldom right but never in doubt.
Jc, I was also overweight for many many years and did not eat a plant based diet although my blood sugars were always normal after I changed from the SAD to a more Pritikin diet. I also indulged in pizza, ice cream and cheese doodles over the years. If you watch plant positive's videos you will find he says that there is something about a diabetic which predisposes him to damaged arteries even with the best diet. Maybe it is inevitable and I did have an MI at the age of 68. As my late father used to say--you are no spring chicken. So I am not a poster girl for the plant based diet although now my diet is 100% plant based. Don't take any bets on me however because I do have a DEstent in place and even I am not totally cheerful about my chances. The damage has already been done.
As to the Mediterranean diet--my grandfather was from a small town in Italy. He came here when he was 16 but maintained the eating habits he had as a boy. He lived into his nineties. I believe in his last years my mother, who was totally devoted to him, killed him by sneaking dairy, eggs and meat into his diet when he came to live with us. She thought she was "building him up". However, grandpop normally ate very little meat and then only meat on the bone, like chicken necks and feet. He ate lots of white Italian, bread, olive oil, pasta and he picked his own dandelions, poke weed and mushrooms. And made his own wine both from grapes and dandelions. If he ate sweets at all, it was very abstemiously. I remember a sweet he brought back from Italy once. It was in a little cardboard box about two inches by one inch in size a nougat with almonds. I didn't like it.
His friends ate the same way. Never large portions. And he walked a whole lot. He was in his eighties when I left home and I remember him walking about 5 miles to the cemetery which had open fields where he picked dandelions. He came here to work to pay off his father's debts and remained, except for visits back to Italy, for the rest of his life. I know where he came from was not a place where a diet of anything but the necessities was eaten. I do not think they had the luxury of lots of fats and sweets. I had one aunt who I was told worked one whole summer in the fields for a farmer. Her payment for the whole summer was a jar of olive oil which I assume was a very large jar but a jar never the less. Hardly something you would be wasting and would most likely conserve to last till the next summer.
There is one thing that I have seldom if ever heard considered. There is no way to know if Dr. Atkins or Jimmy Moore or anyone else is actually following the diet he writes about or recommends. People don't gain as much as Jimmy Moore seems to have gained overnight. For all anyone knows, the diet he proposes might be an excellent diet which he himself has failed to follow. It seems to me he had a lot at stake because of his very public profile. When he gained the first ten or twenty pounds he should have had a clue. As should we all when we start to gain. So the very low carb might indeed be a bad diet but did Mr. Moore actually follow it?
As to the calcium scan. I googled the test and have to admit what I read confused me. Firstly, I was surprised to find that although the scan can tell that you have calcium deposits it cannot specifically locate the arteries in which there are deposits. In our culture, the deposits increase with age which is not surprising because in this culture age increase the build up of plaque if you maintain whatever diet you were on that caused the buildup to begin with.
Also, I think someone on a group which I can't remember, mentioned he had a calcium scan which increased after being on a low fat and meat diet. However, I did read that you cannot use the scan to follow the progress of disease. In other words, continuing on the same diet that is causing blockages will not necessarily linearly show an increase in calcium deposits nor will a change in diet necessarily show a decrease.
Jimmy Moore is only about 41 years old. His lack of calcium deposits could mean that he is too young yet to have them show up, that he has young plaque that hasn't calcified, that cholesterol is building up in the walls of the arteries and even an angiogram wouldn't detect it, that his diet really is great and prevents arteriosclerosis, that he has that rare lipoprotein that allows him to eat any amount of cholesterol and saturated fat and not suffer artery damage.
H, although you are a heretic and I am a member of the choir, you do not offend me. While you think I am trying to please others you might consider that so far, I really do think eating plants and low fat is the way to go FOR ME and that eating very high fat and high animal protein might be dangerous. I have to laugh because the comment was made "on that other group" that perhaps I hang around you guys too much (and am in bad company). Others over there have commented that I do not seem very convinced of the superiority of starched based diets.
So with my own inimitable ability to unintentionally raise the hackles of just about everyone in every camp, I will continue to listen to and read about things that pertain to my own health and to ask questions. My diet is not my religion. But lately I think I should carry around some internet equivalent of a leper bell to warn people that I am coming.
H, it wasn't tuna but not tuna. A recipe made with chickpeas that uses two tablespoons of powdered kelp and one teaspoon of Dulse poviding thousands of times more than the RDA of iodine. My own thyroid TSH was 3.79 last time it was tested which is almost too high so I didn't want to take any chances.
H, I am surprised at you. You seem testy lately. For the second time you accused me of being disparaging when I was reporting exactly what was said in a video since I did not think it was likely that many would sit through it. So I reported the highlights. I reported his good results along with what I consider his bad results. So anyone reading it can come to his own conclusions. And speculate as you have done in some posts of yours that I have read.
Neither my heart attack nor your lack thereof is scientific proof of anything. My own blood sugar this morning was 82 and as you know I am not on meds and have been diabetic for more than 20 years. So far on low carb groups, I have not read of anyone being diabetic that long who has not been on meds for that length of time and has low blood sugars. Which doesn't mean they aren't there--just that I am unaware of them. I am predicting however that Mr. Moore is making himself insulin resistant. He probably already is.
As to your own diet. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Jimmy Moore's diet, by his own admission, was broke. We will see now if he fixes it. For myself, are the condition of diabetic arteries different? Is there something that happens once one has diabetes that makes heart disease more likely no matter what the diet? Or is it just diet (and exercise). And I honestly reported my heart attack so anyone could judge my own diet. Which you have done. And which I do not consider disparaging. Did you mean it to be?
And most of us know people who eat the most horrendous diets, which would meet neither your criteria of healthful nor mine, who also smoke drink and run around with loose women yet remain perfectly healthy well into their nineties. I don't think any diet can compete with really good genes.
Lighten up. You are one of my favorite people of all time. I am sorry I offended you.