yes, H, you are right. But didn't someone leak his medical records which showed he had heart disease? The family would not allow an autopsy. I wouldn't have either under normal circumstances, but Atkins was a public figure, the family owned a lucrative business, and an autopsy showing artery disease would have possibly precluded the very profitable sale of the business.
What if they had allowed an autopsy and discovered that the man's arteries were occluded? Would that have discouraged you from your WOE? (Actually it may or may not have discouraged me. No one has any way of knowing if despite his books and business, the man was addicted to jelly donuts.)
I chose a plant based diet too. I have to choose something. To not choose is to choose. I do think that no matter what your diet, it is important to eat real, whole food (if there is such a thing anymore) preferably without chemical baths (most of which I can't afford) and to eliminate sugary, fatty, salty manufactured "food". I think it is reasonable to speculate about milk, which no species eats after weaning and about eating animals pumped full of hormones and antibiotics and finished in feed lots and crowded poultry houses. And to be suspicious of the power behind food disparagement laws and to wonder why there is not an outcry that in several places it is against the law to photograph certain farms and other places raising animals and to wonder what they are hiding. Fear of contamination is another reason I choose not to eat meat. And one of the reasons I, on rare occasions, eat in a restaurant but with great trepidation.
If you have seen the movie, Food, Inc. you will be afraid to eat anything.
I just watched an old video of Julia Child, cooking with another chef. She lived to the age of 92. She sang the praises of butter and used meats and dairy and eggs. Lest the fat and meat supporters think this diet allowed her to reach the age of 92, she also made lots of rich desserts and enjoyed wine. So, high carb (much of which was refined) and high meat and fat and dairy and eggs. Everyone knows people who lived to ripe old ages and didn't worry in the least about what they ate.
So why are we debating the merits of one diet over another? And why do more and more young people become fat and get diabetes? And why do people get strokes and heart attacks at younger and younger ages. And why is one child out of 110 autistic? An outrageously high number.
Is the answer the consumption of more and more food which has been tampered with by unrestrained agricultural interests? Something else in the environment?
I am beginning to wonder if what is in the cards is in the cards and if we are only kidding ourselves by thinking our chosen diet will improve our health.
Here is what I just read. "While signs of calcification from a positive scan may help predict heart disease risk, a test result that shows very little or no calcification does not necessarily mean that you have no heart disease." So when someone announces that he is heart disease free because of a low calcium scan, no matter what his diet, his listeners can not take this as a sign that his diet is producing no heart disease. And what is worse, the person, no matter what his diet, is putting himself in danger if he relies on the result of this scan as proof that his current diet is protective.
Ketone bodies equal cardiovascular health? Not being well read on this matter I cannot intelligently argue with you but it isn't something you see Al Roker reporting on the morning talk shows. And isn't it true that the same authority you use (whose name I can't remember but it begins with a K) said either the diet you are on OR A JAPANESE TYPE DIET (low in fat with lots of vegetables) are equally good?
The fact is that some people eat swill and live to be 100 and others omit junk food and they exercise, don't smoke or drink and die at a relatively young age. It seems that younger and younger people are overweight and develop diabetes, high blood pressure and heart disease. So someone is doing something wrong. The thing is, no matter how many studies you quote, ultimately the question is--what is best for me?
As to good health and long life: A paleo eater might live a long and healthy life. A high carb eater might live a long and healthy life. If you live a long and healthy life is it because of the diet you have chosen or because you have such fantastic genes that nothing you can do short of getting hit by a beer truck will shorten your life. Or despite what each camp claims, is one type of diet great for some and another type great for others? Could either or both be healthful for some and unhealthful for others? Is there a point at which it is too late to remedy years of eating processed junk food and under exercising?
Unless Esselstyn is a big fat liar it surely seems that a lot of very sick people lived longer than their own physicians expected. And with other improvements. So far I have read of men with erectile dysfunction who claim that a plant based low fat diet reversed the ED. I don't know. Have there been similar claims for those who eat lots of meat, fat, dairy and eggs? Or any one or any combination of the above?
What it comes down to is--asking yourself if you feel better on your diet and if your risk factors like blood pressure, blood sugar etc are improving.
Oh, please. Dr. McDougall .and his diet have been around a lot longer than Gary Taubes. To have one third the results on google for a guy whose theories span about half a dozen years compared to someone who has been around and espousing his own diet theories since the seventies should give you a hint about the enormous influence of Taubes. And you don't see the print and other media throwing palm branches at the feet of McDougall as they do with Taubes.
Maybe. Atkins himself died in the hospital after falling on ice. The family wouldn't allow an autopsy but someone leaked his medical records and I believe he had health problems related to artery disease. It is possible he had a stroke and thus fell. My grandfather died because he fell off a ladder. The reason he fell was that he had a stroke. So for me this scenario seems entirely possible. Recall that Pritikin's family had an autopsy done and made the results available to the public. His arteries were clean as a baby's. He committed suicide while in the hospital for a cancer he had for almost thirty years, knowing it was the end and that nothing more could be done for him.
On the other hand, Dr. Bernstein is a t1 diabetic, now in his nineties who promotes a very low carb diet and uses insulin frequently to keep his blood sugars at around 83 and the low carb diet certainly seems to work for him. Diabetics are more prone to heart attacks.
On the other hand, a lot of low carbers are relatively young--under sixty--and perhaps have not reached an age when years of artery clogging eating takes its toll. And I guess the same could be said for some of the low fat vegan gurus.
Whether high fat, low carb or low fat plant based high carb, any diet of whole foods without processed junk has to be better than the SAD. And neither paleo nor McDougall type eaters consume dairy which could also play a part in maintaining health as would the elimination of seed oils.