You are probably right about vegans getting osteoporosis....they may get too much sugar or not enough greens,or not enough calories. ..or enough sunlight or exercise.
But those cultures that live almost entirely or starches don't have anywhere near the rate of osteoporosis the western cultures have.
What about EG and other healthy eating vegans that get bone loss or osteoporosis?I'm willing to bet its because they are too thin because they don't get enough calories.We know they get enough sunlight and exercise so it must be the calories.View Thread
The evidence against supplements continues to pile up. Recently I created a list of The Top 5 Vitamins You Shouldn't Take . Now I'm expanding that list to include vitamin D, which is taken by almost half of older adults . Now, two new studies in latest issue of The Lancet show that most of these people are wasting their money. The first study is a large review by Philippe Autier and colleagues, who found that taking supplemental vitamin D has no effect on a wide range of diseases and conditions. After looking at over 450 studies, the authors conclude: [blockquote>"The absence of an effect of vitamin D supplementation on disease occurrence, severity, and clinical course leads to the hypothesis that variations [in vitamin D levels> would essentially be a result, and not a cause, of ill health." [/blockquote>So it appears that we've been getting cause and effect backwards, at least as far as vitamin D is concerned. Autier looked at non-skeletal disorders, including heart disease, weight gain, mood disorders, multiple sclerosis, and metabolic disorders, all of which have been linked to lower vitamin D. In trial after trial, supplemental vitamin D had no beneficial effect on any of these conditions. Autier et al concluded that: [blockquote>"associations between 25(OH)D and health disorders "026 are not causal. Low 25(OH)D [vitamin D> could be the result of inflammatory processes involved in disease." [/blockquote>Instead, the researchers found, in study after study, that low vitamin D was the result of poor health, not the cause.View Thread
He continued to eat a diet of meat and fat almost with total abandon.He lived here in Nashville,TN and taught and lectured here at Vanderbilt University.I tried to contact him several times. He never responded but I did talk to some of his colleagues.It puzzes me why he concluded that fat,meat,and cholesterol could be safely ignored since his later findings on the Masai showed aterries that wrere damaged from yrs of high fat . Maybe Heretic can explain that.
I'm certainly not going to change my diet based on that but it clearly points out there are some things we don't yet understand about the Masai studies and diet in general.View Thread
Until the day he died at the age of 95 Dr Mann continued to say that cholesterol was not a factor in heart disease.That fact alone destroys any arguments about the conclusions of the later Masai studies.