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Reply: Benefits of meat consumption - OK, maybe not

Hi Heretic, Sugar is certainly part of the problem. But to reduce it to...

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Benefits of meat consumption - OK, maybe not

Hi folks, Here's a 4 min video. ...

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Reply: Olive oil study - more bad news for dr. mcd theory

Hi H, Yes, but even with the Lyon Heart Study, in 4 years, 25% of the Mediterranean...

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Reply: things diet won't cure

Hi Heretic, Re: "...are all caused by a plant based nutrition that is too high in...

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Reply: things diet won't cure

Dolores, So sorry to hear of your fall. Sounds like you are getting around already...

Posted by EngineerGuy

Dolores,

So sorry to hear of your fall. Sounds like you are getting around already after only 2 weeks, though, which definitely shows that you are strong. Give 'em hell.

What is your blood level of D? You really cannot know the right level of D supplement without a blood test.

My I offer my observations about sun, to get vitamin D?

When I was 58, I attended the Pritikin Center, and learned that sunlight was very healthy, to make vitamin D. I realized that I got zero sunlight on the typical day. So, for 2 years, from age 58 to 60, I got 1 hour of sun daily at noon, running outdoors 4 miles a day, 7 days a week. If it was above 60 degrees, I ran without a T-shirt, just shorts, to maximize the sun exposure. When I was 60, I attended the Pritikin Center again. The doctor assigned to me said, "You're skinny, why don't you get a bone density check." I thought that was a waste of $200, since I had just got so much sunlight and running. But, I did it anyway.

To my shock and dismay, my hips were at the Bottom of osteopenia, almost to the osteoporosis range, for bone density. My lower back was at the top of osteopenia, almost to normal. Great.

Going home to Utah, my doctor got me a testosterone and vitamin D blood test. The testosterone was normal, but the vitamin D (tested in June, after lots and lots of sunlight) was 16. Normal is 30 - 55. 16 is quite deficient, and well correlated with heart disease, heart failure, diabetes, hypertension, osteoporosis, various cancers, etc. Really super.

So did I get enough sunlight? Yes, absolutely. I got enough sunlight to get skin tags, which my dermatologist told me might be pre-cancerous (just in general, not my skin tags specifically). He happily squirted them with liquid nitrogen in about 30 seconds, and charged my insurance $200.

My opthamologist said I had cataracts, and most doctors would recommend that I have them out, but he would recommend to just watch them. That was the last day I ever went outdoors, without dark wrap-around sunglasses. The next year, the dr didn't mention the cataracts. Without the sunlight, the cataracts went away, very luckily.

So, I got lots of UV to damage my skin and give me apparently mild cataracts. But I did not get enough sunlight to give me anything but very deficient vitamin D. And the whole time I was taking a 400IU vitamin D supplement, starting from years earlier.

Take home message #1: Each person is different. A few people have normal vitamin D without any supplement or thought of sunlight exposure. Most people need about 2000 IU of vitamin D. I do. A few people need much more vitamin D to get normal blood level.

Another take home message #2: The 400 IU of vitamin D I took, was pretty worthless. Most people need 2000 IU. Refer to message #1.

I recommend Dr. Fuhrman's Osteoporosis DVD. It includes a very informative discussion and booklet and a 15 minute exercise video. Obviously it will take a while before you are doing the exercises, and you will modify the necessary exercises to your capability at the time.

Dolores, you are a champ.

Best regards, EngineerGuyView Thread

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Reply: The burial of the low carb myth

Hi Heretic, HEY - I agree, once again. This is scary !! Good to chat. Best regards,...

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The burial of the low carb myth

Hi folks, These links have extensive discussion debunking the paleo diet myths, and...

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Reply: for debate

Hi jc, Interesting link, as always. Full disclosure. I did not read the entire...

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Fake Obesity Experts

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Reply: What is THE answer?

oooohhhhh.... never mind. LOL

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