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A key element for you may be your age differences. At the age both of you are at now each is both according to the textbooks at your peak of sexuality and therefore would make a tremendous pair physically. Your guy being in his early 20s hasn't had the time you have to figure out exactly who he is and how he fits in and probably hasn't figured out exactly where he is on the opposite sex to same sex attraction continuum. He may have some feelings which are strange to both of you and he needs first to learn what they are and then what to do about them. That's where it's great that you're having counseling. Is he looking for anything more in the same sex area than some good-natured sexual horsing around with a buddy? Is he looking for a long-term relation ship with another guy? And if he does want to maintain some horsing around, is that something which you can be comfortable with and can you build a stable relationship and future with that as part of it?
Members of a couple do have activities and evenings with friends of the same sex -- not unusual and a healthy part of life. Just how sexual that activity might be is something each couple would have to determine for itself.
So, don't feel you're hopeless! You may be with a wonderful guy who could make a perfect life partner. At least you're talking now and that's the key to a good relationship. I would suggest keeping on talking and include a counselor as you feel comfortable. See what's good for you and don't be trying to imagine what society at large, including your family and friends, might think. Each of us has a right to define our own plan for happiness. Good luck to you both!View Thread


While I may not discuss some of these issues directly with my friends I would think that my open and non-judgmental nature would show through. My accepting them as they are, whatever that might be. And should the right opportunity come up for discussing some of the things which we talk about here I believe I would be ready to do so. In the meantime I think that actions speak louder than words and carry more significance.View Thread


I may have experimented around that age but didn't really get into it until I was 8. For three years or so I could beat off regularly and not have to worry about anything coming out. Then when I was 11 I started to ejaculate semen and all of a sudden I had to plan for what to do with that afterwards -- the days of being able to do it spontaneously just about anyplace private were over.
Looking back it's kind of funny that my initial feelings of being able to ejaculate were those of disappointment and feeling a sense of loss! But as kids do, I adjusted and have been a proud shooter for years now. Did you ever have feelings like that?View Thread

I continue to believe that this type of labelling of people is somewhere between pointless and harmful. The labelling of activities and feelings -- well, that's something else.View Thread

In general I'd say that it's best not to use a medication until you really need it and that's where the grey area might be here. If you're able to get an erection, penetrate and maintain intercourse through orgasm/ejaculation without a medication, I'd say keep the meds in the medicine cabinet until later. That's when you might really want to have their boost.View Thread

For a change I'll be brief and just answer the questions:
1. Yes -- and I'm probably a pec man. Sometimes I think I could bring myself to orgasm just by massaging them alone. It hasn't work but the effort is pleasurable. I began to admire other guys' muscles in bodybuilding ads in comic books back when I was a kid even before I could produce semen (those were the days -- the 'dry shoot' with nothing to clean up; semen took some getting used to when adolescence set in). And I still do.
2. Yup, enjoy the mirror, multiple ones if possible. Like to watch the goosebumps form on my pecs and the little dots on the edge of my nipples get tight while the teats themselves get long and hard. And watch my chest heave as I get myself increasingly excited! And finally watch semen shoot from different angles --extra points for getting it on the mirror.
3. I work out hard and am getting more and more pleased with the manly physique I present myself. But I am highly critical of the work which I believe remains to be done.View Thread

It was late on a Friday night when I was in my early to mid teens and I was in my room getting ready for bed. Like my Dad I didn't wear anything to bed so I just took my clothes off and piled them in a chair. And feeling relaxed when I got my tighty-whities off my freshly-sprung dick would then usually firm up a little and start to stick out some. I had just reached that point when Dad came into my room -- apparently he had just taken his clothes off, too, for he was at half-mast as well. And that didn't seem all that strange since over the years he and I had seen each other clothed and nude, hard and soft lots of times. He had come in to see me because he wanted to remind me that the next morning we'd have to get up an hour earlier than usual because we were going to be going somewhere or doing something.
And after that either he had poked me or I had poked him, who knows at this point, but we started to rough-house as we often did but usually we did that earlier in the day and with some clothes on. The contest became more vigorous and before long we were struggling together on the floor. Recently I had become almost as tall as he was and I was really looking forward to the day when I'd be able to pin him! I was so focused on finally overtaking him that I really hadn't given much thought to the fact that by that point each of us was fully hard with a proud erection. I was just thinking about how to get him on his back when suddenly he flipped me onto mine and pinned me by holding both my shoulders down while he spread out on top of me, face-to-face. Although I was pinned I continued to wriggle to get free while Dad struggled to keep me down and I guess my wriggling spurred him perhaps unintentionally to start thrusting his pelvis. The feeling of warmth and the sprit of play and of the sensation of his hard penis rubbing hard across my lower abdomen was amazing. But almost as soon as he had started, he stopped. A look of seriousness suddenly spread across his face and he said to me that perhaps the two of us shouldn't be having so much fun together. He clapped me on the shoulder, got up and said he'd see me in the morning. We never did that or even talked about it again.
Afterwards as I released my load and calmed down from the excitement -- feeling his presence and bodyweight while his abdomen and chest pressed upon me with his tool thrusting against mine was something I'd never felt before -- I thought I understood what he had said. What had just happened between us was spontaneous and unplanned but as I began to step into maturity I would need to start to develop relationships outside my immediate family. While he and I shared so much there was only so much which we could share. Beyond a point I would need to be setting out on my own as we all do. But at the same time, looking backward to that evening I think that it would have been wonderful if, after he had caught himself and stopped his thrusting, he would have reached down and gently brought me off and that way welcomed me to acknowledged male maturity. I think we would both have been proud and happy with our shared achievements. And that the experience would only have strengthened our already strong relationship.
And that's where I come back to your post, Cam35, about the guy you know whose father sometimes brings him to climax. I can see where it could be great to grow further into physcial maturity within the warmth and understanding of immediate family. And later make relationships because you like the other person and not just to get a physical release or to satisfy an inner drive. I'm happy to see that for at least one guy out there we know of, that sort of thing could be happening. I wish him and his father well.
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Apparently there are some STDs and HIV which have a higher incidence among the uncircumcised according to the study and that's where the $313 per capita comes from. But I think that you and many of the other guys will agree that there are ways to prevent STDs and HIV without lopping off a body part without the owner's permission!View Thread
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