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This discussion will focus on the REMOVABLE, partial and complete dentures and the used of implants.
There are two parameters by which dentures are evaluated:
Resistance form--the ability of the denture to absorb and transfer the masticatory (chewing and biting) forces to the underlying bone and tissue. This transfer of forces should allow a person to function comfortably, without pain or sores. It is generally governed by the quality of the denture making process from impression, to laboratory fabrication, to fitting and upkeep.
Retention form--the ability of the denture to stay in place while in function. This parameter is mostly determined by the remaining oral structures used to secure the denture in place. The construction of the denture is very important, however, if there are teeth present to hold the denture in place, it will stay put far better than a complete (full) denture which rests on limited bone (low ridge).
This is where implants (mini, or conventional) come into play.
In the early 1980's a predictable way to place "root form" implants was introduced to dentistry, and we never looked back.
Dental implants, as we know them today, are titanium screws/anchors, which are placed into the human jaw bone. These implants can be used to anchor a variety of prosthetic devices in place. At first, they were use to anchor a complete lower fixed bridge. Four to six implants were placed into the lower jaw, and a metal structure covered with pink acrylic (plastic) and denture teeth was screwed in place into the implants. As the confidence in the implants grew, the use of implants to replace single, free standing, not connected, teeth, became common. Today, the restoration of choice, when a tooth, or multiple teeth are missing, is the implant supported and retained prosthesis.
The standard of care has evolved, as well. Whereas in the past, the implant retained prosthesis was the "alternative" treatment, today, it is the treatment of choice, mostly due to the fact that the implant retained prosthetic does not involve the used of adjacent teeth for anchorage. When it comes to complete (full) lower dentures, using two implants with "snap" attachments to the denture is considered the standard of care. All the studies of biological factors and psychological factors point to the fact that the implant retained removable denture is an excellent restoration, allowing people to function in a higher capacity and preserving the remaining oral structures.
The most common misconception I have encountered in removable denture is "once the implants are 'in', the denture will be comfortable."
The most important factor to the success of implant retained denture therapy is the proper fit of the denture--the Resistance Form. Only when a denture is evaluated and is deemed satisfactory in function, should implant therapy begin. This holds true especially in situations where one does not have dentures at all. The placement and position of the implants are determined by the position of the teeth and the shape of the well-fitting denture. Placing implants prior to the fabrication and evaluation of a denture can result in problems and improperly placed implants.
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Hurting Gums and Teeth
What would cause my gums to hurt really bad and also my bottom wisdom tooth hurts and I know it needs to come out. Would that cause all of my gums to hurt?View Thread
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Dear Beatlegurl:
Sorry to hear about our troubles. I sounds as if this tooth of yours has been through every possible problem, with some work being better than other.
At this point, it sounds like you have a fracture in the root of the tooth. It is very common with root canalled teeth, especially after a long time and when the final restoration could have been done better.
Root amputation/hemisection has been a viable treatment option for many years, however, with the advent of implants, it is not an economically viable option in most cases.
The extraction of a cracked tooth and replacement with an implant is the most cost effective, long term solution to your problem.
Unfortunately, since I cannot examine you myself, this is all purely speculative and you should see a dentist for a proper diagnosis based on X-rays, clinical examination, and sometimes a three dimensional scan (if needed).
If you are having issues of trust with your dentist, please goto www.gotoapro.org and look up a Prosthodontist in your area. The Prosthodontist is the expert in this field and should be able to give you a proper opinion as to the ideal treatment for you at this time.
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Sorry to hear about our troubles. I sounds as if this tooth of yours has been through every possible problem, with some work being better than other.
At this point, it sounds like you have a fracture in the root of the tooth. It is very common with root canalled teeth, especially after a long time and when the final restoration could have been done better.
Root amputation/hemisection has been a viable treatment option for many years, however, with the advent of implants, it is not an economically viable option in most cases.
The extraction of a cracked tooth and replacement with an implant is the most cost effective, long term solution to your problem.
Unfortunately, since I cannot examine you myself, this is all purely speculative and you should see a dentist for a proper diagnosis based on X-rays, clinical examination, and sometimes a three dimensional scan (if needed).
If you are having issues of trust with your dentist, please goto www.gotoapro.org and look up a Prosthodontist in your area. The Prosthodontist is the expert in this field and should be able to give you a proper opinion as to the ideal treatment for you at this time.
Best of luck,
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Dear An_245262: Sorry to hear about your trouble. This could be an infection, but if it hasn't gone...
Dear An_245262:
Sorry to hear about your trouble.
This could be an infection, but if it hasn't gone away by now, you should see your oral surgeon and have this looked at.
I am sorry that this is all that I can give you, since for a proper diagnosis, an actual examination is needed.
Best of luck,
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Sorry to hear about your trouble.
This could be an infection, but if it hasn't gone away by now, you should see your oral surgeon and have this looked at.
I am sorry that this is all that I can give you, since for a proper diagnosis, an actual examination is needed.
Best of luck,
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Reply: Regenerative Periodontal Endoscopy
Californiadenizen, Thank you for your post. Your situation is similar to others I have read about online....
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Thank you for your post. Your situation is similar to others I have read about online. You describe the exact results that I fear and have learned will not happen with the RPE procedure. Since my previous post, I have done extensive research and spoken via phone and email with Judy Carroll who created this procedure and have sceduled an appointment to have it done. When I was first told I needed osseous surgery and learned more about it, I was sure that there had to be something else. I am glad I trusted my instincts.
I have also heard that the traditional procedure is like working "blind" because the periodontist cannot get down deep enough for proper cleaning and that many people wind up needing it again in several years.
I am truly sorry for what you are going through and appreciate the "warnings" to the traditional procedure.View Thread
Thank you for your post. Your situation is similar to others I have read about online. You describe the exact results that I fear and have learned will not happen with the RPE procedure. Since my previous post, I have done extensive research and spoken via phone and email with Judy Carroll who created this procedure and have sceduled an appointment to have it done. When I was first told I needed osseous surgery and learned more about it, I was sure that there had to be something else. I am glad I trusted my instincts.
I have also heard that the traditional procedure is like working "blind" because the periodontist cannot get down deep enough for proper cleaning and that many people wind up needing it again in several years.
I am truly sorry for what you are going through and appreciate the "warnings" to the traditional procedure.View Thread
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Reply: Wisdom Teeth havent come in can i get braces?
Dear Jossiec87: Wisdom teeth are usually not a problem when it comes to orthodontics. If they are,...
Dear Jossiec87:
Wisdom teeth are usually not a problem when it comes to orthodontics. If they are, they should be removed, since they will present with problems as you age, and will be more difficult to remove as you age.
From your question, I do not know if your wisdom teeth are impacted in bone, or just about to come out.
Either way, Invisalign or conventional orthodontics should not be affected by the wisdom teeth, and if they are a problem, then they should be removed.
You should go to the orthodontist and get a professional opinion. I know that you do not want to waste your money, but I cannot give you that professional opinion online without examination and X-rays. Your age is not a problem.
Best of luck,
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Wisdom teeth are usually not a problem when it comes to orthodontics. If they are, they should be removed, since they will present with problems as you age, and will be more difficult to remove as you age.
From your question, I do not know if your wisdom teeth are impacted in bone, or just about to come out.
Either way, Invisalign or conventional orthodontics should not be affected by the wisdom teeth, and if they are a problem, then they should be removed.
You should go to the orthodontist and get a professional opinion. I know that you do not want to waste your money, but I cannot give you that professional opinion online without examination and X-rays. Your age is not a problem.
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To start with you should see a dentist right away. If that is not possible, get some salt and baking soda....
To start with you should see a dentist right away. If that is not possible, get some salt and baking soda. Use 1/2 tablespoon of each in a half cup of water. Mix it all up and swish this in your mouth as long as you can stand it or up to 5 minutes. Do this several times a day. If all else fails go to an Emergency Room and let a doctor look at your gum. If he feels it is necessary he will get the on-call dentist. You might need a prescription as well. Probably an antibiotic.
Also if you are indigent then let them know it. You won't be turned away just because you have no money.View Thread
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Reply: Orange Tongue?
I've had the same issue without any good advice from MD's, some even asking me if I've eaten anything...
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I've had the same issue without any good advice from MD's, some even asking me if I've eaten anything orange"026HELLO, IM NOT THAT STUPID!!!!!!
Here is what I did and it WORKED!
I agree that its some kind of bacteria or fungi so the first thing I did was check my PH....sure enough it was below 5.0 when it should be at least 7.0, all kinds of nasty stuff can grow in your body when your PH is low (more Acidic). I assume this has more to do with diet than anything else but I can't confirm that.
So I did 3 things that fixed the issue and it has not returned 1)I purchased AlkaMax alkaline support tablets and started taking 2 twice a day, 2) I started taking Grapefruit seed extract and Grape seed extract (best when mixed with grapefruit juice as it tastes awful this kills all the bad bacteria in your body and preserves the good bacteria, and 3) stopped eating sugar, sugar seemed to stimulate the growth of the orange monster in my mouth"026
Since I started this regimen I haven't had any other issues with an Orange Tongue and 'Im happy its gone! Give it a try and see if it helps you!!!
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I've had the same issue without any good advice from MD's, some even asking me if I've eaten anything orange"026HELLO, IM NOT THAT STUPID!!!!!!
Here is what I did and it WORKED!
I agree that its some kind of bacteria or fungi so the first thing I did was check my PH....sure enough it was below 5.0 when it should be at least 7.0, all kinds of nasty stuff can grow in your body when your PH is low (more Acidic). I assume this has more to do with diet than anything else but I can't confirm that.
So I did 3 things that fixed the issue and it has not returned 1)I purchased AlkaMax alkaline support tablets and started taking 2 twice a day, 2) I started taking Grapefruit seed extract and Grape seed extract (best when mixed with grapefruit juice as it tastes awful this kills all the bad bacteria in your body and preserves the good bacteria, and 3) stopped eating sugar, sugar seemed to stimulate the growth of the orange monster in my mouth"026
Since I started this regimen I haven't had any other issues with an Orange Tongue and 'Im happy its gone! Give it a try and see if it helps you!!!
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Dear Jay556: I just realized that your question was never answered. I apologize for that. However, I...
Dear Jay556:
I just realized that your question was never answered. I apologize for that. However, I have answered this question many times before.
Nevertheless, I will give you the information you need:
Even if your teeth are somewhat prepared on the back and the grey is showing through, a composite bonding, or a porcelain veneer restoration on the back of the teeth is indicated. The greyness will also disappear.
In addition, with today's stronger porcelain restoration, a small cantilever bridge with a retentive wing on the palatal (back) side of the canines with a hanging lateral will give you a durable, long lasting and a very esthetic restoration. It is a simpler and much more "conservative" approach to the implants.
If the gum and bone are adequate for implants in the lateral positions, go for the implants and have your dentist restore the backs of the centrals and canines.
If you have issues with lack of bone, consider the cantilever bridges as I described.
If your dentist does not know how to make the bridges I have described, goto www.gotoapro.org and look up a Prosthodontist near you. The Prosthodontist is the expert in cosmetic, restorative, and implant dentistry and should be able to go over the choices with you.
Best of luck,
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I just realized that your question was never answered. I apologize for that. However, I have answered this question many times before.
Nevertheless, I will give you the information you need:
Even if your teeth are somewhat prepared on the back and the grey is showing through, a composite bonding, or a porcelain veneer restoration on the back of the teeth is indicated. The greyness will also disappear.
In addition, with today's stronger porcelain restoration, a small cantilever bridge with a retentive wing on the palatal (back) side of the canines with a hanging lateral will give you a durable, long lasting and a very esthetic restoration. It is a simpler and much more "conservative" approach to the implants.
If the gum and bone are adequate for implants in the lateral positions, go for the implants and have your dentist restore the backs of the centrals and canines.
If you have issues with lack of bone, consider the cantilever bridges as I described.
If your dentist does not know how to make the bridges I have described, goto www.gotoapro.org and look up a Prosthodontist near you. The Prosthodontist is the expert in cosmetic, restorative, and implant dentistry and should be able to go over the choices with you.
Best of luck,
Dr. Zev KaufmanView Thread
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Dear An_245125:
It is nearly impossible for one to diagnose over the internet without looking at X-rays and a clinical examination. However, it is not uncommon for people to experience the sensations you have described following treatment.
The best advise that I can give you is to make sure that the bite is adjusted properly and go back to the Endodontist for proper follow up. Sometimes root canal treatment can look wonderful on an X-rays might have "issues" with it, such as left over tissue, an incomplete seal, or an extra canal that cannot be seen on a regular X-ray.
Either way, a proper follow up is KEY.
Have your Endodontist check and make sure that the treatment stays stable over time.
Would love to give you more information, but it is purely speculative.
Best of luck,
Dr. Zev KaufmanView Thread
It is nearly impossible for one to diagnose over the internet without looking at X-rays and a clinical examination. However, it is not uncommon for people to experience the sensations you have described following treatment.
The best advise that I can give you is to make sure that the bite is adjusted properly and go back to the Endodontist for proper follow up. Sometimes root canal treatment can look wonderful on an X-rays might have "issues" with it, such as left over tissue, an incomplete seal, or an extra canal that cannot be seen on a regular X-ray.
Either way, a proper follow up is KEY.
Have your Endodontist check and make sure that the treatment stays stable over time.
Would love to give you more information, but it is purely speculative.
Best of luck,
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Hi landyboosmommy,
I think that it is probably time to see an oral surgeon who can evaluate the tooth clinically. Since there is a mixture of blood and pus the likelihood is that the tooth is not restorable at this time and you would be better off removing the source of the infection.
For lower cost options check to see if there is a hospital with a dental facility near you or a dental school.
I hope this helps.
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For lower cost options check to see if there is a hospital with a dental facility near you or a dental school.
I hope this helps.
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Hi galway 2012,
I am sorry to hear your husband has been having a difficult time. Unfortunately it can often take time for symptoms to go away even if the diagnosis and treatment are correct.
If your husband has intra-oral candidiasis (thrush) and they are treating,him with anti fungal medication he should start feeling better soon. Although I cannot diagnose on line there are only a few conditions that present with chronic peeling and chapping of the lips and candidiasis is the most likely culprit. If the anti fungal medication your husband is taking is a liquid or a cream he can apply it to his lips three or four times a day.
Another treatment that people have found helpful is bees wax which contains a humectant. He should not use petroleum jelly (Vaseline) as it Is actually hydrophillic and will suck the moisture out of the lips leaving them dryer than they would be without the petroleum jelly.
I know it is difficult having a chronic condition without a diagnosis. If you have not seen a dermatologist I would suggest that you do. You can also see a specialist in oral medicine or oral pathology,
I hope this helps.
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If your husband has intra-oral candidiasis (thrush) and they are treating,him with anti fungal medication he should start feeling better soon. Although I cannot diagnose on line there are only a few conditions that present with chronic peeling and chapping of the lips and candidiasis is the most likely culprit. If the anti fungal medication your husband is taking is a liquid or a cream he can apply it to his lips three or four times a day.
Another treatment that people have found helpful is bees wax which contains a humectant. He should not use petroleum jelly (Vaseline) as it Is actually hydrophillic and will suck the moisture out of the lips leaving them dryer than they would be without the petroleum jelly.
I know it is difficult having a chronic condition without a diagnosis. If you have not seen a dermatologist I would suggest that you do. You can also see a specialist in oral medicine or oral pathology,
I hope this helps.
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Hi An_245097,
The most likely reason people develop receding gums is periodontal disease, also known as gum disease. Typically the gingiva (gums) does not recede without bone loss around the tooth occurring at the same time.
Unfortunately it is impossible to regrow the gingiva. A Periodontist (gum specialist) would be able to best answer your question however you will need to have a consultation in person. Check to see if there is a dental school or a dental hygiene school near you for a lower cost option. You can also look to see if a local hospital has a dental department and a periodontist on staff. Go to the American Dental Educators Association website for more detailed information.
I hope this helps.
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Unfortunately it is impossible to regrow the gingiva. A Periodontist (gum specialist) would be able to best answer your question however you will need to have a consultation in person. Check to see if there is a dental school or a dental hygiene school near you for a lower cost option. You can also look to see if a local hospital has a dental department and a periodontist on staff. Go to the American Dental Educators Association website for more detailed information.
I hope this helps.
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Dear Brighteyeslover:
It is not uncommon for a root canal to be performed and a while later for the patient to experience pain. It is usually due to the fact that a canal might have been missed during the original treatment. In order to solve the problem, a correct diagnosis has to be made and it is much easier today with a three dimensional limited field CT scan. Once one knows the correct diagnosis, a re-treatment can be done.
This evaluation should be done by a qualified endodontist, who is the expert on this. Unfortunately, statistically, when this is done by your general/family/cosmetic dentist the success rate is much lower than if it is done by an endodontist.
www.aae.org will have a link to a qualified endodontist near you. You might try a local dental school for an endodontic training program. It will be less expensive, but might take a bit longer.
Best of luck,
Dr. Zev KaufmanView Thread
It is not uncommon for a root canal to be performed and a while later for the patient to experience pain. It is usually due to the fact that a canal might have been missed during the original treatment. In order to solve the problem, a correct diagnosis has to be made and it is much easier today with a three dimensional limited field CT scan. Once one knows the correct diagnosis, a re-treatment can be done.
This evaluation should be done by a qualified endodontist, who is the expert on this. Unfortunately, statistically, when this is done by your general/family/cosmetic dentist the success rate is much lower than if it is done by an endodontist.
www.aae.org will have a link to a qualified endodontist near you. You might try a local dental school for an endodontic training program. It will be less expensive, but might take a bit longer.
Best of luck,
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Dear An_245060: Pain is not normal. It is our bodies' indication of "something is wrong". You must go...
Dear An_245060:
Pain is not normal. It is our bodies' indication of "something is wrong". You must go back to the endodontist, or another endodontist, if you are not happy with the current one. Have the endodontist look at the tooth for a fracture that typically manifests itself with pain upon biting.
It is sometimes possible to make a crown that will "contain" the fracture and stop the pain, however, if the fracture is "below" the gum line, the tooth might not be restorable.
I am sorry that I cannot give you anymore information, but to do that you must be examined physically.
Best of luck,
Dr. Zev KaufmanView Thread
Pain is not normal. It is our bodies' indication of "something is wrong". You must go back to the endodontist, or another endodontist, if you are not happy with the current one. Have the endodontist look at the tooth for a fracture that typically manifests itself with pain upon biting.
It is sometimes possible to make a crown that will "contain" the fracture and stop the pain, however, if the fracture is "below" the gum line, the tooth might not be restorable.
I am sorry that I cannot give you anymore information, but to do that you must be examined physically.
Best of luck,
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Tooth Decay from the inside of the tooth
My 24 year old son is a Ewings Sarcoma survivor. He is having some dental problems and the dentist told...
My 24 year old son is a Ewings Sarcoma survivor. He is having some dental problems and the dentist told him that his tooth bacteria is working from the inside out. Could this be a side effect of the chemo and radiation from his cancer treatment.View Thread
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Dear oneeyselim: No. It is NOT normal, and I hope that by now you have contacted you oral surgeon. If...
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No. It is NOT normal, and I hope that by now you have contacted you oral surgeon. If you haven't, please do so as soon as possible.
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No. It is NOT normal, and I hope that by now you have contacted you oral surgeon. If you haven't, please do so as soon as possible.
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Dear An_24507: I am so sorry to hear about your wife's problem. However, what bothers me is that in...
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I am so sorry to hear about your wife's problem. However, what bothers me is that in your question you mentioned the work that was done, but you do not mention the diagnosis as to WHY the work was done. In order for any procedure to be performed, a diagnosis and etiology (reason for) has to be given.
I advise that you take your wife to, first an endodontist, www.aae.org who is the specialist in root canal treatment and diagnosis. make sure that the pain is not coming from the surrounding teeth.
The next person is the Periodontist, or Oral surgeon, in order to evaluate the implant and make sure that there is no pain coming form that.
Once the dental reasons are ruled out, you can proceed to a pain management specialist in your area (a physician).
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I am so sorry to hear about your wife's problem. However, what bothers me is that in your question you mentioned the work that was done, but you do not mention the diagnosis as to WHY the work was done. In order for any procedure to be performed, a diagnosis and etiology (reason for) has to be given.
I advise that you take your wife to, first an endodontist, www.aae.org who is the specialist in root canal treatment and diagnosis. make sure that the pain is not coming from the surrounding teeth.
The next person is the Periodontist, or Oral surgeon, in order to evaluate the implant and make sure that there is no pain coming form that.
Once the dental reasons are ruled out, you can proceed to a pain management specialist in your area (a physician).
Best of luck,
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I had a root canal performed by an endodontist yesterday late in the afternoon and followed it up by going to...
I had a root canal performed by an endodontist yesterday late in the afternoon and followed it up by going to the pharmacy immediately after to pick up a prescription for codeine. The doctor was very nice and told me I behaved very well throughout the procedure. When I asked her what I could expect in terms of side effects and recovery time afterwards she told me it varied from patient to patient depending on issues such as pain threshold/tolerance, possibility of infection, etc. I discussed with her the fact that I had taken time off of work to have the procedure done that day and had arranged to take the next day off as well and have someone cover my shift as a precaution for any pain, discomfort, or other issues I might experience. She thought it was normal. In fact, most of my friends and colleagues had advised me to do so in anticipation of any effects from the procedure.
I followed up with the dental office for a doctor's note this afternoon as I planned to return to work tomorrow, two days after the root canal. The receptionist stipulated they would only give me a note for the day of the procedure and not for today as well, the day after the procedure. She asked me if I was still in pain whereupon I said yes and explained that I was up until nearly 5am this morning before going to sleep due to the pain and discomfort I was feeling and finally fell asleep only after taking a second codeine tablet to relieve the symptoms. She told me there aren't any side effects and that I should have been able to return to work immediately. I am better now and feel comfortable to return to work tomorrow but only after enduring a full night of sleeplessness and discomfort. She told me it was the office manager's decision to refuse my request and when I politely asked to speak with her, the receptionist refused and told me it wouldn't change anything. I calmly insisted and waited in the waiting area only to be told a few moments later by the receptionist that the office manager had left for the day. I doubt the validity of this since she had only spoken with her a few minutes after initially producing the letter but I decided to peacefully leave the office at that point feeling rather frustrated and upset with how I had been treated. Is all of this normal, or did I merit better treatment for something which I felt was quite reasonable and understandable?View Thread
I followed up with the dental office for a doctor's note this afternoon as I planned to return to work tomorrow, two days after the root canal. The receptionist stipulated they would only give me a note for the day of the procedure and not for today as well, the day after the procedure. She asked me if I was still in pain whereupon I said yes and explained that I was up until nearly 5am this morning before going to sleep due to the pain and discomfort I was feeling and finally fell asleep only after taking a second codeine tablet to relieve the symptoms. She told me there aren't any side effects and that I should have been able to return to work immediately. I am better now and feel comfortable to return to work tomorrow but only after enduring a full night of sleeplessness and discomfort. She told me it was the office manager's decision to refuse my request and when I politely asked to speak with her, the receptionist refused and told me it wouldn't change anything. I calmly insisted and waited in the waiting area only to be told a few moments later by the receptionist that the office manager had left for the day. I doubt the validity of this since she had only spoken with her a few minutes after initially producing the letter but I decided to peacefully leave the office at that point feeling rather frustrated and upset with how I had been treated. Is all of this normal, or did I merit better treatment for something which I felt was quite reasonable and understandable?View Thread
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Dear niko78: The first thing to do is to stop paying attention to "sensationalism" type research. ...
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The first thing to do is to stop paying attention to "sensationalism" type research.
Telling you that dental X-rays are safe, effective, and have prevented many problems with tooth decay, periodontal disease, and early diagnosis of jaw bone cancer, etc. IS NOT SEXY! it is a daily event, and it is NOT news. However, it is far more exciting to tell you that some people who had a rare brain tumor reported having dental x-rays taken (and who hasn't had X-rays taken?)
The news media did not tell you that the X-rays used over twenty years ago used greater radiation as well.
If you are under the age of 40-45, this study does not apply to you at all. This type of research is at best a proof of association, and not causation. I could have as well concluded that the people with the brain tumor had bad teeth and had to go to the dentist more than the average.
The American Dental Association has guidelines for the quantity and type of X-rays to be taken and your dentist should be following the recommendation based on your susceptibility to caries and periodontal disease.
The general guide lines include:
Four bitewing x-rays (that show the teeth in a closed mouth position every year.
Full mouth series of 18-21 X-rays every three years.
This frequency is typically adjusted based on your genetics, susceptibility to caries and periodontal disease, and home care.
Digital X-rays are better. They give us excellent diagnostic features as well as a much reduced radiation dose.
It is better is your records are taken digitally, however, if you have a dentist whom you trust and he/she still uses conventional x-rays, you need to decide if your trust is more important than the minor radiation that you get.
Maybe you should talk to your dentist and explain your concerns... who knows, you might sway him/her to go digital.
Best of luck,
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The first thing to do is to stop paying attention to "sensationalism" type research.
Telling you that dental X-rays are safe, effective, and have prevented many problems with tooth decay, periodontal disease, and early diagnosis of jaw bone cancer, etc. IS NOT SEXY! it is a daily event, and it is NOT news. However, it is far more exciting to tell you that some people who had a rare brain tumor reported having dental x-rays taken (and who hasn't had X-rays taken?)
The news media did not tell you that the X-rays used over twenty years ago used greater radiation as well.
If you are under the age of 40-45, this study does not apply to you at all. This type of research is at best a proof of association, and not causation. I could have as well concluded that the people with the brain tumor had bad teeth and had to go to the dentist more than the average.
The American Dental Association has guidelines for the quantity and type of X-rays to be taken and your dentist should be following the recommendation based on your susceptibility to caries and periodontal disease.
The general guide lines include:
Four bitewing x-rays (that show the teeth in a closed mouth position every year.
Full mouth series of 18-21 X-rays every three years.
This frequency is typically adjusted based on your genetics, susceptibility to caries and periodontal disease, and home care.
Digital X-rays are better. They give us excellent diagnostic features as well as a much reduced radiation dose.
It is better is your records are taken digitally, however, if you have a dentist whom you trust and he/she still uses conventional x-rays, you need to decide if your trust is more important than the minor radiation that you get.
Maybe you should talk to your dentist and explain your concerns... who knows, you might sway him/her to go digital.
Best of luck,
Dr. Zev KaufmanView Thread
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Hi An_244829,I am going to try to give you a simple answer - if your boyfriend has ever had a cold sore (HSV 1 Herpes Simplex Virus 1) then no you cannot give him herpes. If he has never been exposed to HSV then you can give him herpes but it won't present as a cold sore. Now I am going to give you the longer more complicated answer.
I order for this to make any sense I must give you more information. Oral herpes, genital herpes and the virus that causes chicken pox are all alpha herpes viruses, meaning that behave in a similar fashion, once exposed to the virus it remains with you for the rest of your life sleeping (dormant) in either your spinal cord (chicken pox) trigeminal root ganglion (oral herpes) or the dorsal root ganglion (genital herpes).
With oral herpes one of two things occurs following your first exposure to HSV1, either you develop something called primary herpetic gingivostomatitis - blisters all over your mouth lips and throat that resemble the blisters of chicken pox only more localized, with fever and malaise. Primary herpetic gingivo stomatitis take about three weeks to heal once you start developing blisters - or much more likely you do not develop any blisters (a sub acute response) but you do develop antibodies to the HSV 1 virus. After this inital exposure, visible or subacute, the HSV1 virus goes to sleep waiting to be woken up usually during times of stress, fever or exposure to cold weather.
Primary exposure to HSV 1 tends to be seen in children under five with a small peak during the first two years of college. So more than likely your boyfriend has already been exposed to the virus way before you met each other and the virus is at this moment waiting to wake up and when it does then he will develop a cold sore.
So this is the actual response, if has never been exposed to HSV1 before he met you and you kiss him most likely nothing visible will occur or very unlikely he will develop primary hermetic gingivostomatitis stomatitis. If in fact you have a cold sore and you kiss him he may develop a cold sore, not because you gave him the virus but rather because he got stressed out and reactivated his own sleeping HSV1.
By the way, although less common secondary herpes can also occur in the mouth in the gums and the palate.
The way you described your mouth seems to be within the range of normal but please remember that I cannot diagnose on line and if you still have questions you should speak with your dentist or physician.
I hope this helps. If you need clarification fell free to post back.
And lastly, this is not a sexually transmitted disease!
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I order for this to make any sense I must give you more information. Oral herpes, genital herpes and the virus that causes chicken pox are all alpha herpes viruses, meaning that behave in a similar fashion, once exposed to the virus it remains with you for the rest of your life sleeping (dormant) in either your spinal cord (chicken pox) trigeminal root ganglion (oral herpes) or the dorsal root ganglion (genital herpes).
With oral herpes one of two things occurs following your first exposure to HSV1, either you develop something called primary herpetic gingivostomatitis - blisters all over your mouth lips and throat that resemble the blisters of chicken pox only more localized, with fever and malaise. Primary herpetic gingivo stomatitis take about three weeks to heal once you start developing blisters - or much more likely you do not develop any blisters (a sub acute response) but you do develop antibodies to the HSV 1 virus. After this inital exposure, visible or subacute, the HSV1 virus goes to sleep waiting to be woken up usually during times of stress, fever or exposure to cold weather.
Primary exposure to HSV 1 tends to be seen in children under five with a small peak during the first two years of college. So more than likely your boyfriend has already been exposed to the virus way before you met each other and the virus is at this moment waiting to wake up and when it does then he will develop a cold sore.
So this is the actual response, if has never been exposed to HSV1 before he met you and you kiss him most likely nothing visible will occur or very unlikely he will develop primary hermetic gingivostomatitis stomatitis. If in fact you have a cold sore and you kiss him he may develop a cold sore, not because you gave him the virus but rather because he got stressed out and reactivated his own sleeping HSV1.
By the way, although less common secondary herpes can also occur in the mouth in the gums and the palate.
The way you described your mouth seems to be within the range of normal but please remember that I cannot diagnose on line and if you still have questions you should speak with your dentist or physician.
I hope this helps. If you need clarification fell free to post back.
And lastly, this is not a sexually transmitted disease!
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Hi An_244789,
I am sorry you are having such a difficult time. Although I cannot diagnose on line what you are describing is consistent with one or two clinical situations.
Infections in the mouth due to cavities or teeth that have broken can most definitely cause pain in the area of the affected tooth and/or referred pain, meaning that the pain can be felt away from the tooth. Referred pain is more likely to occur with infections of the mandibular molar teeth, the ones in the back on the bottom jaw. If your pain is tooth related seeing a dentist is your best bet. If you don't have an active infection (pus and severe pain) you can wait but it is in your best interest to have it looked at.
The other possibility is that the pain is not coming from the ear or the teeth rather it is coming from the temporal Mandibular joint, the TMJ. If this is the case and your lack of an ear infection with an earache suggests that it may be you should see a dentist trained specifically in treating TMJ disorders or a pain management doctor. Often times massaging the muscles around the joint, behind the ear and in front of the ear can help. You can also alternate heat and cold locally, a heating pad then an ice pack, five to ten minutes each on and off for fifteen to twenty minutes a day on both the right and left TMJ.
Speak with your dentist or physician to see if they can recommend an anti inflammatory medication which will decrease the swelling around the joint and relieve some of the pain at the same time.
You may be a good candidate for a nightguard however they can be quite expensive. Check with yiour local hospital to see if they have a dentist on staff as hospitals sometimes have a sliding fee schedule. Don't let anyone alter your bite while you are in pain, if they do it may feel better at the time but it can also alter your bite so that it always feels a little off.
I hope this helps,
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Infections in the mouth due to cavities or teeth that have broken can most definitely cause pain in the area of the affected tooth and/or referred pain, meaning that the pain can be felt away from the tooth. Referred pain is more likely to occur with infections of the mandibular molar teeth, the ones in the back on the bottom jaw. If your pain is tooth related seeing a dentist is your best bet. If you don't have an active infection (pus and severe pain) you can wait but it is in your best interest to have it looked at.
The other possibility is that the pain is not coming from the ear or the teeth rather it is coming from the temporal Mandibular joint, the TMJ. If this is the case and your lack of an ear infection with an earache suggests that it may be you should see a dentist trained specifically in treating TMJ disorders or a pain management doctor. Often times massaging the muscles around the joint, behind the ear and in front of the ear can help. You can also alternate heat and cold locally, a heating pad then an ice pack, five to ten minutes each on and off for fifteen to twenty minutes a day on both the right and left TMJ.
Speak with your dentist or physician to see if they can recommend an anti inflammatory medication which will decrease the swelling around the joint and relieve some of the pain at the same time.
You may be a good candidate for a nightguard however they can be quite expensive. Check with yiour local hospital to see if they have a dentist on staff as hospitals sometimes have a sliding fee schedule. Don't let anyone alter your bite while you are in pain, if they do it may feel better at the time but it can also alter your bite so that it always feels a little off.
I hope this helps,
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Hi An_244763,
I apologize for the delay in getting back to you.
Although I cannot diagnose on line I can tell you that most likely the pigmentation has actually been ther before now but you had not noticed it until now since you were actively looking at your tongue.
I have seen hundreds of patients with brown spots on the tongue. Most of the time it is normal racial pigmentation which occurs after a break in the skin, for example, a patient bit their tongue and when it healed the place they bit healed but looks darker than the adjacent "normal colored" tongue.
The darker your skin is the more melanin producing (pigment producing) cells you have. These cells can occur as often as one in three skin cells to one in twelve skin cell for fair skinned people. If there is trauma the melanin producing cells break and the melanin spills out into the tissue below the break in the skin. This is why people often have dark skin at an area of prior tear in tge skin and that tissue stays dark even after the skin heals. The official name for this is post inflammatory hyper-pigmentation. The reason a dark area remains is that the specific cells that "eat" the melanin are very very very slow.
You can certainly show your tongue to your dentist or physician at your next visit to get a clinical diagnosis. And if the appearance of the brown spots changes with respect to size color or texture you should see a doctor. I would recommend either an oral surgeon or a dermatologist familiar with the skin of the oral cavity.
You did not mention if your tongue is still causing you pain however if it is you can reply to this post and I will get back to you. I hope this helps. Dr. BrownView Thread
Although I cannot diagnose on line I can tell you that most likely the pigmentation has actually been ther before now but you had not noticed it until now since you were actively looking at your tongue.
I have seen hundreds of patients with brown spots on the tongue. Most of the time it is normal racial pigmentation which occurs after a break in the skin, for example, a patient bit their tongue and when it healed the place they bit healed but looks darker than the adjacent "normal colored" tongue.
The darker your skin is the more melanin producing (pigment producing) cells you have. These cells can occur as often as one in three skin cells to one in twelve skin cell for fair skinned people. If there is trauma the melanin producing cells break and the melanin spills out into the tissue below the break in the skin. This is why people often have dark skin at an area of prior tear in tge skin and that tissue stays dark even after the skin heals. The official name for this is post inflammatory hyper-pigmentation. The reason a dark area remains is that the specific cells that "eat" the melanin are very very very slow.
You can certainly show your tongue to your dentist or physician at your next visit to get a clinical diagnosis. And if the appearance of the brown spots changes with respect to size color or texture you should see a doctor. I would recommend either an oral surgeon or a dermatologist familiar with the skin of the oral cavity.
You did not mention if your tongue is still causing you pain however if it is you can reply to this post and I will get back to you. I hope this helps. Dr. BrownView Thread
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Hi An_244934,
Patients often present with intraoral pigmentation, it tends to be associated with normal racial pigmentation. Sudden changes in the color of the gingiva (gums) is uncommon. Are you sure about the timeline, that it has been only 2 - 3 months?
I agree with your concern and I think that your husband should see an oral surgeon and have a clinical evaluation. Your dentist may be able to refer you to a provider they have worked with or you can go to a hospital with a dental clinic.
I hope that this helps. Dr. Gwen Cohen BrownView Thread
I agree with your concern and I think that your husband should see an oral surgeon and have a clinical evaluation. Your dentist may be able to refer you to a provider they have worked with or you can go to a hospital with a dental clinic.
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Hi IMHERE1949,
I am glad you are feeling better! Please be careful when you are swishing with hydrogen peroxide, it can cause chemical burns if it is not diluted.
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I have this same thing in my upper lip and it has been there before but I dont know if it went away or I...
I have this same thing in my upper lip and it has been there before but I dont know if it went away or I just forgot about it but it seems to be bothering me lately. I looked up pictures of a mucocele and mine doesnt look like those. You cant even see it i can just feel it. I can move it around with my tongue and it moves. What is this?View Thread
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