I just wanted to report my 6 month results for anyone who is interested. Note that I am now off Periostat b/c I got pregnant. So I have 6 months on it and will be off for 9. Not sure if I will go back on after the baby is born. My follow up results are nothing short of amazing. As I mentioned before, my pockets were all pretty much 7's throughout my mouth. Terrible. On Saturday, my gum probings were mainly 1's, 2's, and 3's. I had two 4's and a random 5. I almost cried. The dentist even mentioned that for a pregnant lady my gums were amazingly healthy. So I am a true believer in RPE. I continue to brush twice a day, floss twice a day, use Closys mouthwash, and do the Waterpik most days of the week. It worked for me. I am keeping my teeth!!!!!View Thread
I don't think anyone does what Judy does.... I honestly think the Emdogain and Periostat makes the difference. You may find a perio who will prescribe Periostat but good luck getting one to use Emdogain the way she does.
You can find some good deals to Seattle flying Southwest out of Baltimore. Not familiar with Philly's schedule but maybe they have something too. It's pretty worth the trek in my opinion. You could essentially fly in the day before, have the procedure and fly out that night. I was planning to fly out the same day but I stayed in town for dinner with friends (yeah you can eat after it no problem).
If Seattle is really not an option, there is a perio in Pittsburgh, Alexandria, Virginia, NYC, and I believe Miami who has the same equipment as Judy. I googled her endoscopy probe and the manufacturer and list of clients came up in the search. I almost went to the perio in Pitt but figured why not do it right and go with the lady who knows this best! I'm really glad I did. I'm still doing phenomenal and so incredibly thankful I took the chance. Seriously--- I was 34 and in danger of getting dentures!!!! This has given me my life and confidence back. I no longer worry what it will be like to have dentures before I'm 40. I really do sing the praises of RPE. Ha. I sound like an infomercial.View Thread
Hi-- Sorry I don't get notifications if this thread has been replied to. I actually just had my three month follow up at my real dentist. The hygeinist said my gums were perfect color and she would never guess there was an original problem (not counting the recession and front tooth gap). Of course, she said the x rays and pocket probing 3 months from now will tell the full story but she was impressed and very interested in RPE generally. I sent Periopeak's info to the office.
What I have noticed: My gums have not bled a single time since that fateful day. I brush twice, waterpik twice, and floss twice a day. Not a single iota of blood (and I was BLEEDING before with just minor brushing). My mouth no longer hurts. My gums ached all day long and they don't anymore. My two front teeth sometimes hurt a little bit if I eat something sugary or carby or crunchy. Those were my deepest pockets at 7mm so maybe they've improved but obviously not all the way. I also had redness and puffiness before RPE but they're all nice and pink and tight around my teeth. Unfortunately, cosmetically, this has caused problems. My gums were so swollen that I didn't know I had the "black triangles" type of recession. I plan to get gum grafts down the road. I also noticed that my front tooth gap has closed a bit. It's not fully closed but I've noticed a difference in pictures. I have noticed zero side effects from the Periostat. I might have mentioned this in a previous post, but I am trying to get pregnant and if I end up successful, I'll have to stop it since it's a class D drug. I'd like to get 6 to 9 months in before that though--- but I am getting old and the clock is ticking.
I wholeheartedly recommend this procedure as the first line of defense rather than the surgery. It's 3,000 and that's alot better than 10,000. You have nothing to lose if you get it done and remain vigilant with your aftercare.
Also, since my appointment with Judy Carroll in Seattle I've done some research on who actually has this endoscopy equipment in the U.S. in case I need to go get my front teeth done again. I live in DC and there's 2 periodontists within a 500 mile radius. That's telling you something. It's not very popular yet. And both of these practitioners do not do Judy's "RPE". She comes from the holistic approach: reduce your body's inflammation, try to figure out the root cause of your gum disease, treat with bone building proteins and take the Periostat. I don't know who else does it exactly this way but I think she has it down to a science.View Thread
I don't know anything about Perio Protect but I did just do RPE last week. My gums haven't been this pink in years. I forgot what normal tight gums looked like. It is so worth a try...even if you consider price alone. The surgery is 3 times as much as RPE. So far I am feeling this was well worth my $3k and a trip to Seattle. Of course, time will tell but I am off to a great start (much better than any blind scaling and root planing and perio maintenance ever did for me).View Thread
Had the RPE done and so now I pray it works. Didn't hurt at all but having my mouth wide open for 4 hours was pretty difficult. I have high hopes that this is the ticket to perio recovery. It's been a day so far and the usual aching gum pain is gone. I do still have some inflammation but that's to be expected after the procedure. Judy and staff were extremely nice and I felt comfortable the whole time. She even said I would most likely see some of my gaps close....which would be AWESOME since I've become so self-conscious of them (even though they're not that terrible...just new to me). If not, I can fix them with invisalign or bonding.
I am happy to answer questions. I had generalized 4mm to 6mm pockets throughout my mouth so I am guessing I had what they call "moderate perio". I also had bone loss-- hence the front teeth gapping. She said I should see great results.
I have a phone consultation with her this weekend. She is west coast and I am east coast so it has to be remote. I sent my dental records over to her and she was very prompt getting back to me. I will certainly come back to this site and give my updates. The message boards have been an invaluable tool to me as I navigated this problem and what to do about it. It put me at ease a bit to see my records and realize not all is probably lost. I'm assuming I'm a good candidate. My chart is alot of 5's and 4's. My bone loss is not advanced (I don't think comparatively to what I was researching yesterday) and none of my teeth are loose. I just started getting a gap in my front teeth and it scared the hell out of me. That's where I see the majority of my bone loss on x ray So I know there's a problem but the regular dentist can't seem to fix it. I am faithful this will work. I'll update--- I'm shooting for a late February/ early March appointment date if possible.View Thread
Wow! I saw your testimonial on her website. That's awesome. It does make sense to me scientifically. It's basically the same idea as surgery but instead of cutting the gums back to see the calculus, they are using a camera. I finally was able to save up the cost of it and my travel so I hope that I can get a consultation and appointment with her soon. I'd rather spend $3,600 than lose my teeth or have a "monster mouth". It's worth a try. My only question to you guys that causes a bit of apprehension (since I was planning on getting pregnant within the year) was how long she has you on Periostat? Can't be pregnant or trying while taking a tetracycline. Is it for the standard 3 months or 6 or longer? I feel like alot of the success probably comes from this drug and I don't want to spend a ton of money on something that will get ruined if I don't do the Periostat long enough.View Thread
So very curious if anyone can give detailed accounts of their experience with Judy Carroll and RPE. I am seriously considering this-- as I cannot fathom at 33 having gum surgery or worse--- dentures. I've never had a cavity in my life but my mouth is full of pockets ranging from 2- 7mm (majority are 5's). I had scaling and that didn't work since at the time my pockets were pretty much all 7's. I am getting a gap in my front teeth and I am just praying that I can get this under control somehow without having what I have seen in pictures as "monster teeth" after a perio surgery. Admittedly, I was a smoker (have since quit and going strong almost a year) who did not go to the dentist in my late 20's. But full blown perio disease? Wasn't expecting it. Would love to hear reviews about RPE. It sounds like the key alternative.View Thread