marieh9 posted: I have posted previously but had a new question. I was injured several times 1. dog attached by least to pants pulled me forward. 2. PT was doing a manual adjustment did wrong leg and caused major pain, sat too much. 3. was laying on bed with knees bent and left knee fell out to left side (free fall) and I felt a tear but don't know if there was. I have had chronic pain since in one spot on my low back near the L5-S1 area on the buttock sort of near the SI joint. I had a MRI of lower back and bone scan before injury #3 and it was totally normal. I had a hip Xray after injury 3 and it was also normal. After injury 3 I can cross my left leg over the right knee while sitting but not the same as the right side. When I try, the muscles in the left buttock are very tight and I get increased pain in the injury area mentioned above but it doesn't last into the next day. After a year and a half I still can't cross that leg properly and was told to stop trying to cross it for about 6 months until my pain when down. The pain is getting better but I tried again to cross it and it still is frozen. I need to be able to dress and can't bend either. Will I be able to loosen it up if I keep trying? Is there something wrong that I should get checked or is it just scar tissue? what should I do? I am walking a hour a day including hills and doing some chores and driiving but I can't do all my chores yet. Any suggestions on how to start bending without hurting myself? thanks in advacne for any suggestions. Marieh9View Thread
Hi CTBeth, thanks for your reply. No I have not had another MRI after injury #3 but I had a hip Xray. I don't want to go to another PT because I got injured really badly by one and hurt by another. I don't trust them any more. I am afraid I will get hurt again and go backwards. Normally I have chronic low back pain every day in the left buttock to the right upper buttock (gluteus maximus) and when I sit and cross the left leg over the right, it feels tight on the left side of the buttock and I can't keep it crossed for long. It doesn't hurt the spot near the gluteus maximus until about an hour later. Then the rest of the day it hurts but not into the next day until I try crossing it again. I figure that it is scar tissue or something that is frozen like a frozen shoulder. I can't open the left leg as far as I can the right when I cross it or even when I lay down with my knees bent and open the left leg to the left it doesn't open as far as when I open the right leg to the right (with the knee bent). It is low back pain not knee pain that is the problem. Also, when I first got injury #3 I could only lift my foot up off the floor about an inch or so while standing so I couldn't get outside over the step or step into the shower for about two months. I also couldn't reach to wash myself below the waist (privates). I finally loosened up and could wash myself and I finally got outside over the step but it took me a long time to walk as far as I am doing now. I was getting small "tweeks" or injuries that would last a week then later a few days from just moving the wrong way and finally after doing hills and getting stronger these small injuries went away. The intensity of the pain is much better now as well. So the walking has helped over time. Let me know if this clarifies things. marieh9View Thread
Annette030, No I'm not questioning my doctor. I wanted advice from people with experience. That is why we are all on here. I have see many doctors including many specialists.Orthopedic surgeon, physiatrist, pain doc, integrative pain med doc, GP, neurologist (think that is all of them). I am improving but since I can't go to physical therapy I need other options. My doctor said it was ok to try to cross the leg finally but he doesn't give advice as to how. He knows I don't want to go to PT again and agrees and is trying to get me to do it on my own. Well, I don't know how to do that. I can cross it but was wondering if it gives me pain but not when I do it but later and the pain doesn't last into the next day is that ok or not? I probably will go back again but not for a few months. marieh9View Thread
Even though exercise may sound like it will hurt more than help I found that even though it hurt trying to increase my walking distance from 5 minutes a day to now 1 hour plus hills it is the single most effective thing that has helped my myofascial low back pain. It does hurt while you are doing it but overall you can do more and will feel better. My nerves were oversensitized and small movements would hurt, once I got to doing hills these small and frquent injuries lessend and now I have gone about 3 months or more withoout one. I still hurt but can progress some. hope this helps. Marieh9View Thread
Hi my doctor has asked me to try the stretches in "Treat your own back" by McKenzie. Has anyone tried these stretches and has it made your pain worse or better within 2 weeks? thanks, marieh9View Thread
I have myofascial pain syndrome and was injured twice by physical therapists (made me much worse) . I have a normal MRI it is muscular and scar tissue. So, what is working for me is walking, Flexeril, Limbrel 500 (a natural NSAID) and now I have done 4 biofeedback sessions and a bunch of accupunture and I'm finally not getting set back and the pain has gone down somewhat. I found that I was hyperventillating (biofeedback told me this) and that creats the fight or flight which increases adreneline and triggers the nerves to make the muscles spasms. I'm also taking about 300mg of slow magnesium. I still need an answer about the McKenzie method. thanks marieh9View Thread
Anon_160266, I'm so sorry your in this situation. Do you have a back injury which resulted in the pain down the legs? Did you have an MRI and what were the results? I am a clinical lab scientist (microbiologist) and have had the same negativo remarks etc. regarding pain meds. It sounds (without knowing too much) that you might have nerve damage? If so perhaps Neurontin or a related drug would help. You also rightly sound depressed. Write back and let me know what injury you had or what happened to get in this condition. I had an injury in 2006 from my dog pulling me forward (she was attached to my pants and saw another dog, it was very dumb) and I had pain in upper left buttock near the SI joint and went to a PT and he made me stronger with stretches and then strengthening. The pain also went down the left leg to the knee. After 7 months and a cortisone shot (MRI negative) I finally got better. But then I recurred about a year and a half ago doing yoga. I got injured twice by PT's and I went to a pain doc, then a physiatrist, and GP, and neurologist and finally was sent to the Integrative medicine group. I have myofascial pain syndrome. The pain goes down to my heel down or muscle spasms. I was on Neurontin, Skelaxin, Tramadol , NSaids etc. Vicadin, and finally got off all the crap. The new doctor at Integrative medicine gave me Flexeril, plus an NSAID (called Limbrel 500 which doesn't kill my stomach) and I started accupunture, and biofeedback. I started walking for 2 minutes and increased every couple of days until now 1 year later I am walking 1 hour, slowly. I still can't bend or cross my left leg properly so I can't put my pants on yet. But, the pain is starting to go down. I didn't believe in accupunture but it seems to be helping over time. The biofeedback has helped short term and I found that due to pain I was breathing shallowly and it was affecting my pain too. So, you can get out of this. I am supposed to start new stretches but am afraid. I too lost my dad, my husbands brother and dad in the last two years. This caused a lot of grief and stress and then i hurt myself. I also lost my job too. I am lucky my husband is still working. Is this the way yours went? You could also try a Cymbalta like drug though it may be hard to get off of. There is a newer one too. I have to get the name. I would go with that type of drug but see a neurologist if you haven't yet. I hope this story helps. Let me know if you need more info and let me know how you are doing. Leave me a message if you can. Get the diabetis under control and the sleep apnea. But the pain will go hand in there. marieh9View Thread
Hi Bren_bren, Thanks for your response. I have myofascial pain syndrome in the same areas (and now have new muscle knots in my neck and shoulder blades). Did you have an injury that then gave you these symptoms or did it come on by itself. My problem was an injury. I do try to eat anti inflammatory foods. Kind of the Greek diet except we drink soy milk.. When I was cooking regularly I think we had a much healthier diet though. It can use some improvement. I did try the magnesium 400mg for three days and although it didn't take away the main pain I did notice the muscles were less tight on my legs and less twitching. This alone helps. We eat broccoli a lot and carrots etc. Does the anti-inflammatory diet take down your pain or help cure this thing? Did the myofascial massage help you? There is one here in San Diego. I asked my doctor (integrative pain med doctor) if I could go to one and he said not yet. I am going to ask him again when I see him in two weeks. He thinks it might flare up the pain and he is trying to get rid of the pain first. Accupuncture has helped but not for long. My problem is that every three weeks or so I move the wrong way and I get set back for about a week and more pain. The accupunture took 6 visits to work and my pain and stiffness has gone down but it shoots back up when I move the wrong way or "tweek" my back. I don't know how to stop this from occuring unless the massage will do it. Did you have this problem? Thanks in advance. marieh9View Thread
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