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Reply: I started a petition re DEA, pain meds, and us,

??? I'm not sure why you are telling me something I have been stating since page one on...

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Reply: I started a petition re DEA, pain meds, and us,

As many of us have mentioned...the DEA does not have a urine test rule and that is what I...

Posted by Peskypain

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Reply: I started a petition re DEA, pain meds, and us,

Please read the entire thread...This was already brought up on the last page and many of...

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Reply: I started a petition re DEA, pain meds, and us,

Even if Hydrocodone moves to be a Schedule 2...It does NOT mean that someone has to go to...

Posted by Peskypain

Even if Hydrocodone moves to be a Schedule 2...It does NOT mean that someone has to go to their Dr. monthly! I can't say it enough to please go to the actual DEA website and read about the Controlled Substances Act...I put a link on my other post directly to where it shows that the DEA does not require monthly visits for Schedule 2 meds.

There is NO DEA requirement of monthly urine tests!!!

I go every 3 months. I only have a urine test once a year.

I will say it again...I don't know of even any state law that makes patients have a urine test every month! That is your Drs. choice..

Hydrocodone is just as heavily abused as all the other opiates so I don't see the move to go to Schedule 2 as any big deal. Someone who is on pain medication should be monitored by their Dr. at least every 3 months.

By making it Schedule 2 it means that there just can't be refills but Drs. can still do post dated prescriptions for a few months out as this is what mine does for my meds.

It also means not just "any" Dr. or Dentist, can write for Hydrocodone like they do now and have months and months of refills. Anyone who has "acute" pain should only need them for a month or so and be tapering down. For somoene who is actually "chronic" like many of us....then going to see a specialist to find out the reason why is imperative.

And then most all chronic pain patients move from a short acting med to a long one after a certain amount of time as it makes no sense to be on short acting long term. This would be chasing the pain every 4 hours...

So...I don't know where you are getting your information but nowhere does the article state what you are saying about "requiring monthly office visits and monthly urine test"....

****This is why I get frustrated as people are perpetuating incorrect information....

Ok folks...one more time for those who are either refusing to read actual facts or previous posts....

THE DEA does NOT require monthly visits or monthly urine tests!!View Thread

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Reply: I started a petition re DEA, pain meds, and us,

Agree with both Anon above and CT Beth and thank you for trying to explain things... ...

Posted by Peskypain

Agree with both Anon above and CT Beth and thank you for trying to explain things...

That's all we are saying.....you can't just petition the entire "Obama administration" as that includes many people from the VP , to the Sec. of State to his Chief of Staff and just write, "We are upset over not getting pain meds"....

We have all tried to help you Lee...but you seem to be missing the point entirely....

I'm not sure you understand how government works both Federal and State as well as how laws are made and passed. I'm not trying to be snarky...I'm saying it factually as you think that this particular petition without anything referenced is going to do something....

You can't expect people to sign something when you don't even have any specific details for them to read.

I will say it one more time....You will not overturn any law (which ones we don't even know) by having some petition sent to a generic Obama White House.gov address.

They have nothing to do with any new changes as I already showed you that the CSA has not been amended since Oct. of 2008.

People should find out about their own states laws/regulations in regards to controlled substances...and I'll say it again....you will have much better luck with looking at what is coming down the pike.

People in all 50 states are still getting pain meds prescribed to them. Not everyone has to see there Dr. every month and I don't know of any state that requires this. If someone has proof of this please show us. As well as I don't know of any state that requires a urine test every month.

I DO know for a fact that the DEA does not require this (monthly visits and monthly urine tests)

Lee...you say that you had a Dr. lose his license....That means that he was likely breaking the law and either taking meds himself, prescribing to known addicts, or doing something that most Drs. should not be doing. This does not happen lightly and for no reason.

I think we are going in circles as you aren't willing to see what quite a few of us are saying. We just wanted facts and figures....details. Not too much to ask.View Thread

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Reply: Hyrocodine and oxycodine

Thanks for sharing a bit more... I know that I can come across very "direct" as...

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Reply: Hyrocodine and oxycodine

I'm not sure why you are getting mad at those of us who took time to reply and give...

Posted by Peskypain

I'm not sure why you are getting mad at those of us who took time to reply and give honest feedback. We are trying to let you know what it looks like on the Drs. end..

You came and posted and asked whether we thought you "should" be kicked out or not...

Getting defense or mad at us seems out of place.

I truly hope you aren't this defensive with your Dr. To me, it would bode better for you with them if you took a humble but honest approach. To say that you had "no clue" that it wasn't wrong or that the meds were "sort of" the same is actually going to backfire on you if you tell the Dr. this.

They expect people to not just read the bottle which actually says right on it in (it is written on mine underneath the Pharmacies address) and says "Caution" Federal Law prohibits the transfer of this drug to anyone but the patient for whom it was prescribed. As well as it's in very bold print on all the written inserts that comes with the prescription in the bag from the Pharmacy.

Many of us (will soon become mandatory) sign an actual pain management contract with the Dr. each year stating all this in great detail along with that we will not accept controlled substances from any other Dr. except in an Emergency. It states that if the meds are lost or stolen they will not replace..etc.

So to me, if you claim to your Dr. that you didn't understand how these are actual controlled substances and extremely strong pain medication and that you could have overdosed by taking something a lot stronger than your meds, or if you got into a car accident and hurt/killed someone else they would have found these meds in your system which would trickle down from you to your friend. This may make things even worse by saying you had no clue about any of the possible dangers.

I guess my point was coming clean "after" they tell you that you have failed your urine test is much different than telling them the day you took the test as well as brought in your meds to show them that you had the two extra of your pills.

To me it would be best to say that you made a terrible mistake and that you absolutely realize how dangerous it could have been for all involved. Anon 57995 was just trying to explain how many people it could have affected if it all went wrong. If your friend had a pill count from her Dr. and was short those two pills then she could get kicked out as well.

All of this is not to scold you but to answer your post and explain what the Drs. view is. If for any reason the state or the DEA needs to look over your Drs. records he will have to give reasons why he kept someone on after failing a urine test and taking someone else's meds. So it is a HUGE deal for them to decide to keep you on. This is why I think you should go overboard on making sure that you tell your Dr. just how much you have learned from this and exactly "why" it was a bad decision. I bet he would feel better knowing that you truly get it and aren't just upset because you got caught.

We are all truly trying to help you, but also anyone who reads these threads. That is why I ended my other post by saying thank you for being honest here.View Thread

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Reply: I started a petition re DEA, pain meds, and us,

Now that is a great re-cap of what we are asking!! Thanks so much! I hope that Lee...

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Reply: I started a petition re DEA, pain meds, and us,

Thanks for providing those links Lori! We can still agree to disagree in that I still...

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Reply: I get so tired of dealing with the stigma and misc...

Hi there... Just FYI but this particular thread is 5 months old...You will get a lot...

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