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Reply: I get so tired of dealing with the stigma and misc...

Hi there... Just FYI but this particular thread is 5 months old...You will get a lot...

Posted by Peskypain

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Reply: Hyrocodine and oxycodine

?? I'm not sure where you are getting your information? Could you please elaborate on...

Posted by Peskypain

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Reply: Hyrocodine and oxycodine

If they are still treating you, then I'm wondering why you are still concerned about it....

Posted by Peskypain

If they are still treating you, then I'm wondering why you are still concerned about it. It seems like they found out you failed the test but did not dismiss you from their practice.

You ask "should" you get kicked out...I can't answer that, but do they have the right to, yes they do. It's actually a felony to give someone these meds or take them if you are not prescribed them.

I am NOT trying to be snarky when I say this...I am just amazed at how people think that extremely powerful, controlled substances, are taken like Tylenol. I guess I could never imagine in my life taking medications that are not prescribed to me. People would never do this with someone's BP medication, thyroid or heart meds....but it seems like people think it's no big deal to do so with these meds...

The medications are actually Hydrocodone and Oxycodone. They are two different meds so that is why it will show up differently on a lab test that uses gas chromatography mass spectrometry. I don't know all the details of exactly how long a medication stays in one's system but it does sound a bit odd to be there 2 months later.

What would have helped your situation greatly was coming clean with your Dr. when you did this and BEFORE you took the test. But this way, they think you are trying to hide this from them.

This is unfortunately why many people wonder why Drs. are hesistant to trust patients with these types of meds. That is why I am not trying to berate you, I am actually just surprised at the number of people I read on these boards and others who have done this, or take more of their medication than prescribed when they are having a "bad day"...

The only thing you can do now is go from there. What will happen will happen if they decide to dismiss you you can only plead your case and try to speak with the Dr.

It really doesn't matter at this point about how long something stays in your system if you are saying you aren't going to do this again then you need not worry about that.

The only other issue is that they now have this down on your medical records so if/when you ever need to see another Dr., it will show a failed urine test.

But you should just move forward and it seems as if they are keeping you on if they haven't said they are letting you go.....so it's a lesson learned and I appreciate your honesty with telling us on here. It is also a lesson for anyone reading that these medications....whether controlled meds or not, should never be shared with anyone else.

I wish you luck.View Thread

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Reply: I started a petition re DEA, pain meds, and us,

???? I was actually trying to help you get MORE support and better thoughts/suggestions...

Posted by Peskypain

????

I was actually trying to help you get MORE support and better thoughts/suggestions about your situation.

It is actually laughable that you are accusing me of being "self righteous or sanctimonious"....

All I have requested in this particular thread is that people who are accusing the DEA or their state of directly causing a problem for you to please show us what law or regulation is the reason so we can all read this.

I have said numerous times that while I feel badly for those having problems....this thread was about this petition and started by a person using erroneous statements.

All I asked is that this be a logical and respectful discussion. When it comes to something like this where people are wanting to affect "change". It needs to be done with facts and figures.

We get the emotional side to it and how difficult it is for some people...that is not the point of this thread. I am very happy, as are others, to provide empathy and all the emotional support needed on other threads that are about someone's personal journey with chronic pain.

I only said to you that you need to demand proof from any Dr. or Pharmacist who is using the DEA as an excuse not to treat you or to not prescribe medications. Then you can look the law up yourself to see if they are telling the truth because there are many Drs. out there who are saying this but it isn't so. The DEA only goes after or gets involved in a DRs. business if there are many red flags that have come through the state first. A reputable Dr. has no worries of any of the laws that are in place now. And I tried to help you by saying if a Pharmacy is doing what you said, that is not the DEA but their own illegal act and you need to report them TO the DEA and the state.

That is why I said that you would be better served as you were continuing to post here and getting upset with the responses just because I was wanting to stick to the subject at hand on this one thread.

(In general...not to you specifically)

Again, all I, and others were asking is to get the proof of what they are accusing the DEA of doing. Because if they don't have it, then the petition is meaningless and really won't be taken seriously.

If it's a state issue, then you need to write directly to your state Senators/Representatives and the ones who wrote for and agreed to the bill/law that is causing you direct harm. And by this I mean getting the names of Pharmacies and Drs. to also sign a petition and back you up as well.

I can guarantee that if it's just pain patients who say they are having "trouble" finding Drs. to perscribe opiates to them....or make the wrong accusations about a specific thing like the complaint of seeing a Dr. every month when that is not a DEA regulation, it will fall on deaf ears and be thrown away.

So, it's not about being mean, not about "not" caring. It was about having a logical discussion on one thread that should require proof to links showing the actual laws/regulations that someone is objecting to on a petition.View Thread

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Reply: I started a petition re DEA, pain meds, and us,

If you are looking for support and thoughts/suggestions on your own situation, then...

Posted by Peskypain

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Reply: I started a petition re DEA, pain meds, and us,

My point is that I am a literal person when it comes to certain thing...So when you or...

Posted by Peskypain

My point is that I am a literal person when it comes to certain thing...So when you or someone else says, "Pharmacists" blame the DEA....You cannot speak for all of them in the entire state.

If you say to me that you have spoken to one, or two and they have directly said to you that the DEA has a law that say, "xyz" and gives you the information to go look up and we see this then I can agree.

But the DEA is not telling "all" Pharmacists that they cannot provide opiates. This is what I am objecting to when people are taking their personal experience and making it sound like this is happening to every single person and all Drs. or all Pharmacists are "afraid" of the DEA.

As mentioned, the state of FL may have other laws and regulations but that is not the DEA. The DEA is a federal government entity.

I know of at least 7 other people who belong to another online community that are prescribed Methadone for their long acting medication and live in FL and they are getting their meds. As I said earlier, many Drs. are only going to prescribe Oxycodone in the short acting form for breakthrough meds in smaller amounts. The states like Florida are definitely cracking down on someone needing more than 4 pills a day (120) for either their BT med, or for someone who only takes this med but is a chronic pain patient as it does raise a red flag as it's not the norm.

I'm a bit confused on what you are referencing as the issue about the "owner" is saying they won't allow scripts this way. Owner of what?

I also don't understand when you say that "timed release meds are wasted"...Methadone is a long acting medication. It's half life is anywhere from 15 to 60 hours with a mean of around 22. So it is considered time released as opposed to your Oxycodone which is short acting.

You can and certainly should report any Pharmacy that is saying they will not accept your insurance and will only take cash for prescriptions. If they are a national chain then this has nothing to do with the state or the DEA but an illegal act by that Pharmacy.

Just like there are rogue Drs. out there, there are also Pharmacies that have gotten shut down by trying to scam the system.

I use a Sam's club....They have bargaining power to have competitive pricing as well as have a larger access to a variety of medications. You do NOT have to be a member to use the Pharmacy in the "big box" stores.

I will have to read your other post as I don't understand why your Dr. isn't helping you find a Pharmacy that takes your insurance and has the meds you need. Or he should be trying to get you into another PM Dr.

As I mentioned in another post...Because I don't have insurance...I have had to work with my Dr. to adjust what medications I take.

I'm sorry that your individual experience is not good with your Dr. or a Pharmacy. I can accept individual stories but you or others have not shown us exactly what law is affecting you and causing this trouble.View Thread

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Reply: I started a petition re DEA, pain meds, and us,

If your Dr. is outright telling his patients that the DEA is "watching him" closely and...

Posted by Peskypain

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Reply: Pinched Nerves

I would do neither until you see a Dr. Make sure that there isn't something serious going...

Posted by Peskypain

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Reply: I started a petition re DEA, pain meds, and us,

This is just "your" feeling on this. All of us, so far, who actually have to have urine...

Posted by Peskypain

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Reply: I started a petition re DEA, pain meds, and us,

??? Again...you are totally misreading my posts... I am speaking about actual...

Posted by Peskypain

??? Again...you are totally misreading my posts...

I am speaking about actual addicts...not pain patients...

Both CTBeth and I have said numerous times now that I don't understand why you are ignoring this..

There are some pain patients who are having trouble finding a good Dr. to help them....

That has NOTHING to do with this petition to the DEA which once again in two more posts you can't come up with actual proof of what you are accusing them of. You keep changing your story every single post.

Now you are lumping it into states...Well..which ones...which laws or regulations specifically are you against.....

I am all for a healthy and logical discussion but I also presented facts to you but I have yet to see facts from you on what you are saying is the fault of the DEA.

Just because there are some people who are truly in pain and are having trouble finding a Dr. to treat them, does not mean that it's all because of the state or DEA.

And you are absolutely wrong to say that "most pain patients" do not get addicted.

Addiction boards are filled with those who started out having pain but got addicted to the medications..

Addiction is something that I believe (as well as many Physicians) is an actual chemical imbalance in the brain. This is something that is not about "will power"....My mom has struggled her entire life with cigarettes, which she quit, alcohol, which she quit, and now it is overeating. She is a very strong person but has trouble with addictive behavior.

Anyone can get addicted to pain meds. This still has nothing to do with recognizing the difference, which I have pointed out many times, between an actual epidemic of prescription drug abuse and those that have real health/pain issues that are taking their meds as prescribed and have no problem with addiction.

There is absolutely a difference between addiction and dependence and that is not the issue at all. Most of all of us are dependent on our meds if we have been on them a long time, just like other meds like heart or thyroid medication.

To not have your eyes open to the true issues of prescription abuse that has been on the rise the last 10 years is only seeing one side of the coin. But you seem to only want to focus on just the pain patient side.

I recognize there are those who suffer from addiction and the laws that are in place are actually helping Drs. focus more on those who are not abusing medications as we do not fail urine tests, our pill counts are fine, and we don't Dr. shop or use the ER to get meds.

As I said, this is also helping Drs. discover more quickly who may be struggling and starting down the wrong path if they are having a patient who is running out early or failed a test and hopefully get them help before it's too late.

If anything, I wish there were more monies spent on addiction and helping those, especially who do not have insurance or the money to seek treatment.

This entire thread, started by you, was a petition against the DEA in which you are blaming them for everything from pill counts, urine tests and having to see the Dr. every month. We have shown that this is not due to the DEA.

There are many non PM Drs. out there that are deciding not to treat chronic pain patients as they don't want to go to the trouble to do the extra certification/training. So yes, it will take time for those who are being treated by them to seek out a new Dr. But this happens a lot if a Dr. leaves a practice, or drops an insurance plan.

I can't say it any clearer that IF you, or anyone, has a specific issue with a specific part of a law/regulation that is out there then by all means, petition away. But be clear, give out facts, and then give people links so they can see for themselves.View Thread

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