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I'm really sorry to hear that you're going through all this SIM73, to me, it sounds like a nightmare. Just reading certain parts actually made me feel faint, like "feeling the implant catch on your chair".... Ugh! But then agin, I am a HUGE sissy... I can't even look at a needle on TV, let alone seeing/feeling something moving under my skin. I would vomit and faint within seconds!
I wish you the best of luck with your issue, but like others have suggested, you should heal/recover before throwing in the towel.
These things take months before becoming even remotely normal again. Stay positive, stay calm, and communicate with you physician on a mature and neutral level. Don't get it in your mind that he's done wrong by asking us, we can't see you and we're not qualified to diagnose your needs or condition.
If you sincerely feel that you've been done dirty, quietly get a second opinion.
Again, good luck and stay strong!
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I won't go into detail, but it was all prescription opiates given to me by my PM, totaling 760 MG's every 24 hours for over 12 months straight before my re-boot.
WOW! I honestly was taken back when I sat and figured this out...
I guess what I'm saying RJ, is that if I could go absolutely cold turkey from nearly 800 MG's of Oxy-everything to zero for two weeks, including 4 days of withdrawal, while suffering mind blowing pain levels with almost no sleep and not lose it, anyone can, you just have to want to do it, and know that you'll be in a much better situation when you're finished.
Testing your mental and physical limits is something that I was used to before my accident. Whether is was Triathlons, or surfing, running a massive company, or just raising four kids and cherishing my marriage. Anything worth while is going to cause you some work and pain.
As I hinted to in my earlier post to you, once you do it, you'll never fear a prescription bottle again, or anything else for that matter.
People have ZERO concept of what we go through everyday, and like CTB said, "our physicians don't even know, as they've never been in our shoes". I would say the certainty that people in our shoes are some of the strongest ever made.
Stay strong, hope this helps!
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Is there a way to send a personal message to one another on these forums?
Let me know, I'll send you my emails address.
I can imagine your pain level is out of control right now and I sincerely feel for you. Constant pain will make you crazy by itself, not sleeping on top of that is a really bad combination.
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I did not want to continue, as even my PM was getting worried about how much I was taking daily. When I look back at my first opiate, that single 5 mg Vicodin used to provide relief and 7 years later I was taking 300 MG's daily. I decided that I would completely detox my body and get back to a manageable dose, which is I guess what I'm suggesting to you...
Fortunately, I'm not an addict, I'm dependent on opiates, so quitting was purely physical. Withdrawals, while hellish was nothing compared to the pain I had to bear while letting this stuff get out of my system completely. I made it two weeks before I just couldn't take it anymore, but it worked, and I was able to go back to 40-60 MG's per day vs 3-4 hundred. Two weeks may not sound like a long time, but for someone with my issues, trust me, it was an eternity. I had left over medication that I could have taken anytime to stop my ride on the roller coaster of pain. At first I refused, after a week, I knew that I would overdose if I took those pills.
Maybe it's time for you to clean this stuff out of your system, and "reboot" your system. It's worth it, as every doctor has his limits as to how much they feel comfortable giving you, and I'd much rather have this be my decision than to be forced to detox. For me, it was quite liberating, knowing that I could quit anytime I wanted to instead of fearing running low on my prescriptions.
Either way, good luck, and know that you can do anything you need to, just steel your mind!
I don't know that there is a dose of Subutex high enough to keep you going. Stay close to your MD.
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Lesson learned for anyone who's read your original post!
Injections do provide temporary relief, better than nothing I used to say...View Thread

The issue you're about to deal with is far better than dealing with killing your own spouse, but its going to be tough for all the reasons mentioned above.
As far as your MD goes, if you tell him/straight, you could end up in jail, or worse, being black-balled from receiving your much needed pain medication maybe forever... I'm not telling you to lie, I've always been on the up and up with my PM, but I've never been in a predicament even remotely similar to yours.
The bottom line here, you're going to have to get your wife straightened out. It sounds like she's got some addiction issues, but only you and she would know. Regardless, you guys need to keep to your own medications, no questions or sharing involved, period! Do whatever it is you need to do, get her help, get her MD to up her scripts (probably not a good idea), but at least she's not taking yours, then ridiculing you when you run short and withdraw. I've been through them, and that's the last thing I'd want!
I wish you luck my friend, talk to your wife, support her, and ask that she reciprocate. You guys need each other now more than ever.
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As for chronic pain, I'm with CTB, in the same boat anyways... Once in a while I may get some relief here and there, most of which I think is just me convincing myself that it doesn't hurt that much. It always returns unfortunately.
Fortunately I have a beautiful wife and four nearly grown kids to motivate me. Without them, I'd probably just give up and succumb to the pain, as the Good Lord knows, I've had far more than my fair share...
Anyways, talking about horror stories... My bad!
Stay strong, take it easy on your body so you will continue to heal, and enjoy what you've got, I just takes a micro second for everything to dramatically change.
Peace,
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My wife had herniated disks in her c5-c7 levels that were severely abbreviated by her massage theropist. At the time, she did know of her issue, she thought it was old age or arthritis. She's pretty tough like that.
Fact of the matter is that while these people have good intentions, their lack of clinical and radialogical diagnosis is terrifying. They just want another patient to sign up for a three year program. The chiropractor I saw promised me that he could fix my back IF I paid him 4k, and visited him twice a week for three years. He didn't even know what was wrong with me, and quote possibly could have paralyzed me be cause of his lack of knowledge.
You see, some people can function daily through the pain that herniated or bulging disks may give. And because I'm not lying down, waiting for death like most, some people assume that I'm not as bad as some others. That's when things get dangerous with Chiropractors, they think a few minor adjustments will fix it all.
So to answer your question, I love a good soft tissue massage, my back cannot be cracked, ad it's all bolted and screwed together.
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Prior to this PM, I went to see another Doc that did a Urine test on everyone, every time they walked in. He even had a full time nurse that worked for the Piss test people that did nothing BUT rub and analyse urine tests.
It took me about three minutes to figure out that I was in the wrong office, as it looked like 99% of the people in there were straight off the street. Now I'm not one to judge, and I'm certainly not any better than any one person in this world, but this particular DR was treating addicts, and not managing pain...
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My PM office recently (Jan 1st) asked me for a scanned copy of my license, and said it was for confirmation and communications with the Pharmacy I use to fill my prescriptions. I cost me nothing but a minutes time.
I've seen the same PM for over three years now, and I can only remember peeing in a cup MAYBE twice. Maybe you should seek out a new PM MD if the cost of a photo copy and a urine test are causing you financial hardship. Either that, or you just chalk it up as the cost of obtaining your medication.
Now that I think of it, my PM's front office girl took my picture too, and THAT was to be used with my Pharmacist. Everything is supposed to be done electronically now days, problem is, certain prescriptions can't be called or faxed in. You have to walk in with the prescriptions in hand.View Thread
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